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#431945 - 04/05/11 02:54 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: Prizewriter]
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Originally Posted By: Prizewriter
A lot will depend on the sort of training you are after, which will depend on a)where you live b) how far you want to travel to train c) how much you can spend.

Some classes like Aikido have a lower risk of injury than full contact classes like Judo or Muay Thai. Then again you will get a more vigorous workout from the latter compared to the former (usually).

Thanks prizewriter - the a,b and c not too critical although obviously I would not go to excesses in either b or c.
Luckily i'm next to a major town which has most any art you can name and I can do it. Quite spoilt really.

I most definitely won't be embarking on Muay Thai! They trained that at my kickbox club and it's just insanely hard on the bod! My kickboxing training was already tough and that was when I was at the peak of my physical fitness!

I would like to do Iai-do or Iai-jutsu (the interest still remains from my Kendo days) but there won't be much workout value I suppose.
Taekwondo is an option and an interest, but I would have to take it easy as it can pretty full contact.
Maybe Aiki-do would be a sort of middle ground...

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#431946 - 04/05/11 03:14 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: superbully]
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Iaido you can practice alone and anywhere there is a decent floor and a high enough ceiling.
Aikido needs a partner and a mat. I have seen people who started after 65 as beginners, enjoy themselves at it for years.


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#431947 - 04/05/11 05:13 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: iaibear]
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Superbully:
I started doing tang-soo do 4 months ago at the age of 44, and mixing in some groundwork as well.
I lifted weights for some time before, but did practically no aerobics.
The biggest obstacle for me is flexibility, which I've been working on by stretching, and aerobic capacity, which has improved greatly.
I feel much better since I got into this, and dropped a lot of weight in a short time. My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
My advice to you would be to go for it. You're not getting any younger, and the longer you wait, the harder it will be.
I found that I like the contact part of my style, and that I learn better that way as opposed to practicing moves without opposition.
I've also found that my instructors and fellow students respect me for having the balls to get into it despite my age, and they go out of their way to help me.
You won't be able to keep up with the younger guys right away, but you'll catch up before long.
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#431949 - 04/05/11 11:43 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: superbully]
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Originally Posted By: superbully
I'm 42 and haven't done sport seriously for a few years now, quite contrary to how I used to be when I was younger - ABA boxing 12 to 15 years old, Judo 13yrs to 15, karate 15 to 18, American kickboxing 25 to 27, Savate 27 to 29, Kendo 30 to 33 (reaching almmost black belt in this).

Since then I haven't done anything, yet I have a huge yearning to be practising something again.
It is probably due to being so active in the past I feel this way and that there is something missing in my life at the moment.

Do you think at 42 it's too old to embark in a martial art? I must admit I don't feel as bristling with energy as I did a few years ago and most certainly not as lithe/supple and bendy as before... do you think it's a good idea then??


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#431952 - 04/06/11 04:11 AM Re: Too Old? [Re: superbully]
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Originally Posted By: superbully


I most definitely won't be embarking on Muay Thai! They trained that at my kickbox club and it's just insanely hard on the bod! My kickboxing training was already tough and that was when I was at the peak of my physical fitness!

I would like to do Iai-do or Iai-jutsu (the interest still remains from my Kendo days) but there won't be much workout value I suppose.
Taekwondo is an option and an interest, but I would have to take it easy as it can pretty full contact.
Maybe Aiki-do would be a sort of middle ground...



I would defintely check out Aikido then. Aikido uses quite a lot of sword (bokken) work as well as the empty hand element of the system. Depending on the class, it can be quite vigourous. At worst Aikido will provide a moderate workout.

Some styles are more active than others. Tomiki/Shodokan Aikido uses resistant randori, so you can get a decent sweat up in class without getting half-killed!

Really though you will get most benefit out of doing something you enjoy (as you are more likely to keep at it). So I would check out as many classes as you can and see what you enjoy the most.

I did Aikido myself for a few years, so if you have any classes in mind then I can give you a (barely) educated opinion on them.
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#431961 - 04/06/11 11:02 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: superbully]
Mark Jordan Offline
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It is easier when you are younger but I don't let age dictate if I should train or not. I believe you can learn at any age but you will have to work at it. Flexibility shouldn't be something to worry about, you eventually get there through training.

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#431963 - 04/06/11 11:38 PM Re: Too Old? [Re: Mark Jordan]
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I most definitely won't be embarking on Muay Thai! They trained that at my kickbox club and it's just insanely hard on the bod! My kickboxing training was already tough and that was when I was at the peak of my physical fitness!


I gotta say, I wouldn't give up so quickly on Muay Thai. I am 43 and do it 3 nights a week. I got more beat up doing Kenpo, but I believe it has to do more with the culture of the school. I am no longer competing and just there for the pure fun of hitting stuff (and people) and keeping my fitness up as high as I can. We have a great culture that blends the hard core competitive guys and the casual guys like me. While we work hard, we also work hard to make sure we can all go to work in the morning as well.

Personally, I think a body pushed (in the right way) says younger than a body that is babied to much.

A good school with good people and instructors will make sure you are training at the level that is right for you, and trusting you to know your body and when maybe something is too much for you to do to avoid injury.

Not knocking any other choices, just saying don't shy away from the hard stuff. It can be done and done well without injury in the right atmosphere.
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#432010 - 04/10/11 02:09 AM Re: Too Old? [Re: Kimo2007]
47MartialMan Offline
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I don't understand why anyone would believe Aikido is easy or made for age persons. When I had briefly trained, it was anything "but". The falls, throws, and pain from certain tactics were not for light duty

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#432014 - 04/10/11 07:17 AM Re: Too Old? [Re: Kimo2007]
Prizewriter Offline
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Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 2546
Originally Posted By: Kimo2007


Personally, I think a body pushed (in the right way) says younger than a body that is babied to much.

A good school with good people and instructors will make sure you are training at the level that is right for you, and trusting you to know your body and when maybe something is too much for you to do to avoid injury.

Not knocking any other choices, just saying don't shy away from the hard stuff. It can be done and done well without injury in the right atmosphere.


That's a fair point, but the key is finding the right school. There's a gent online called the Wise Grappler, and he has a survival guide to grappling for "older guys". He started BJJ when he was 32, got his black belt 10 years later but learnt some painful lessons along the way. He had to train with people who were less than understanding about the fact that he was a bit older than he was.

Finding a good school that accomdates all types of students is key.

Aikido training can be tough, but to be honest it is rarely as tough as a Judo or Boxing class. Additionally, the OP expressed an interested in Japanese Sword systems, so Aikido would fit the bill.
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#432018 - 04/10/11 10:56 AM Re: Too Old? [Re: Prizewriter]
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Loc: upstate New York
I attended a formal Aikido "testing" a couple weeks ago.
They had the top two blue belts one on one taking turns as uke.
Talk about vigorous!
@ fifteen busy minutes later they were still at it full bore.
They both passed.

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