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#432068 - 04/13/11 10:18 AM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Cord]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Originally Posted By: Cord
Originally Posted By: BrianS

I refuse to visit or be a big part of a board whose political and religious views are opposite of mine. I can argue for a while, but it wears me out.


With respect Brian, this is precisely why the rules on religious and political discussion exist - so that people need not feel excluded, and can share their excellent martial art knowledge and experience in an environment devoid of unnecessary factors that focus on our differences, not our bond in the love of the arts.

If you think about it, the people on here that offered you heartfelt support and friendship during your troubles, are now the liberals and heathens you no longer feel inclined to interact with. That only came about because of the experiment to relax the rules on religion and politics frown




Yes, that's very true, but when I spoke my religious views I was mocked and attacked. I'm not putting myself out there for that anymore.
Martial arts is not my primary motivation for life, it's not a priority, just a priveledge I enjoy. My religious views (if you want to call them that) are my priority. I don't like political discussions at all though.
i'm not saying I don't like you guys or I'm better than you guys, you all know me better than that.
I'm saying that when the site got involved in politics and religion, the more liberal mods took that over. I'm not comfortable with that, so why subject myself to bickering with friends?
The site took a turn for the worst when:
1. politics and religion were unleashed
2. they changed the format and now it's hard to look at and navigate
3. advertisements pasted all over........really....
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#432071 - 04/13/11 01:30 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: BrianS]
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Originally Posted By: BrianS
[ Yes, that's very true, but when I spoke my religious views I was mocked and attacked. I'm not putting myself out there for that anymore.


Again, this is the problem with religious discussion, faith is so intrinsic to who we are, that to question someone's religion, seems to be to question the validity of the person themselves. You and I locked horns on this very subject, but it was certainly never my goal or intent to mock or attack you. You are someone I respect and like greatly.

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when the site got involved in politics and religion, the more liberal mods took that over. I'm not comfortable with that


And you must acknowledge that hardline, somewhat literal christian interperetation of life can put forward views on cultures, and orientations that present an unwelcoming environment for a majority of global internet users who may otherwise wish to share in the site.

Again, this highlights why religion and politics have been so heavily censored on the site - martial arts discussion is just that, and under the rules, a westboro baptist, a muslim, a homosexual and an atheist should be able to discuss their insight and passion for the arts on equal terms. That was the goal of the site when the rules were set.
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#432072 - 04/13/11 01:33 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Cord]
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I think I'd ban a WBC member on sight, just on general principle, and for the good of this site.

(they're known litigation baiters)
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#432074 - 04/13/11 01:47 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Zombie Zero]
Cord Offline
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Originally Posted By: Zombie Zero
I think I'd ban a WBC member on sight, just on general principle, and for the good of this site.

(they're known litigation baiters)


Was just used as an extreme for purpose of making the point - and I would also say that, providing a WBC member respected the rules of the site, we would never know they were a member of that church, and could just talk martial arts, the purpose of the site in the first place.
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#432077 - 04/13/11 03:06 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Zombie Zero]
BrianS Offline
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Originally Posted By: Zombie Zero
I think I'd ban a WBC member on sight, just on general principle, and for the good of this site.

(they're known litigation baiters)


I think I'd tie them to a cactus and kick them in the junk until they pass out, then I'd shoot em. wink
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#432078 - 04/13/11 03:07 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Cord]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Originally Posted By: Cord
Originally Posted By: BrianS
[ Yes, that's very true, but when I spoke my religious views I was mocked and attacked. I'm not putting myself out there for that anymore.


Again, this is the problem with religious discussion, faith is so intrinsic to who we are, that to question someone's religion, seems to be to question the validity of the person themselves. You and I locked horns on this very subject, but it was certainly never my goal or intent to mock or attack you. You are someone I respect and like greatly.

Quote:
when the site got involved in politics and religion, the more liberal mods took that over. I'm not comfortable with that


And you must acknowledge that hardline, somewhat literal christian interperetation of life can put forward views on cultures, and orientations that present an unwelcoming environment for a majority of global internet users who may otherwise wish to share in the site.

Again, this highlights why religion and politics have been so heavily censored on the site - martial arts discussion is just that, and under the rules, a westboro baptist, a muslim, a homosexual and an atheist should be able to discuss their insight and passion for the arts on equal terms. That was the goal of the site when the rules were set.



I don't have to acknowledge anything, but I likeand respect you too Cord. grin
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#432080 - 04/13/11 04:49 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: BrianS]
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Posts: 3409
Loc: Salem, OR
I like your thinking Brian, but I'd rather drop them into the middle of Baghdad with "I LOVE THE USA AND JESUS" tattooed to their backs (no shirt on).
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#432311 - 05/05/11 03:46 PM Re: Censorship of the board [Re: Stormdragon]
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Posts: 3400
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The reason the site is managed by Mods is so that it doesn't deteriorate into a slanging match about xyz political/religion/whatever and so that it more or less stays on topic - which of course is Martial Arts.

The site is a world wide thing and is not limited to citizens of USA. I for one have no idea what most of you are talking about in the political side of things, have no idea what the US constitution is and don't actually care or are interested in it.

Lets try to keep it on the Martial arts theme with occasional diversions into whatever you like but cut out the verbal slanging matches! wink
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