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#432271 - 05/02/11 11:40 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: JasonM]
gojuman59 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 224
Loc: Missouri
I have never heard of this taking the rank away, but I like it. I think that this would be a good way to motivate the kids to engage in correct behavior. Lets be honest, alot of the rank given to children is there to build their self-esteem and charactor development. It should be seen as differant than adult rank.
My only qualifier would be that if rank is taken away the repeat of the testing shouldn't involve more fees.

#432272 - 05/02/11 01:03 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: gojuman59]
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Registered: 03/31/07
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I see it as a nuclear option if a student really shows poor character, either inside or outside the school.

But it could be a big stick, when a student is promoted they could be told the rank carries a responsibility to uphold the character of the school both in/out. I think it's an important part of training, though it's fallen by the wayside quite a bit.

I don't mean some deep almost religious code, just basic good citizenship all around.
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#432274 - 05/02/11 01:59 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Kimo2007]
gojuman59 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
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Loc: Missouri
I also think that there is a lesson to be taught to the parents of the kids. There is more to do than just pay your testing fees and junior gets a black belt.
There's not much worse than seeing a child with a black belt on his waist causing trouble.
I guess I'm hard core about this, but I believe that children should be put in a holding pattern at brown belt until they reach the age of 16.
I can say this because I don't have a school to run.Mine would no doubt go belly up.

just some thoughts, Mark

#432280 - 05/02/11 06:03 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: gojuman59]
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Registered: 02/26/11
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Our school has something called a junior black belt for students under the age of 18, which is written on their certificates.
They don't feel that most kids these days are mature enough to understand the responsibility of holding a black belt.
Exceptions have been made, but not very many.
When they turn 18, they are interviewed by the instructors, then given a normal black belt certificate.
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#432286 - 05/03/11 04:41 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: choonbee]
Ives Offline

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 691
Loc: the Netherlands
We don't have those problems, since you can only attend classes from the age of 15 and above. By the time you can reach shodan, you'll be 18+.

But taking a belt away, that's kind of bogus in my opinion. What happened to the good ol' leccture by seniors?

If you aren't mature enough (character wise aswell) for certain rank, you won't get promoted in our school. Let alone get a surprise exam!

#432287 - 05/03/11 07:22 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Ives]
JasonM Offline
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Interesting responses, tks.

I guess I can agree with it but in this case I was told the person would retest and pay the fee again. That to me sounds like a money making scheme.
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#432290 - 05/03/11 10:28 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: choonbee]
gojuman59 Offline

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 224
Loc: Missouri
I like that way of doing things. That way they keep motivated and let them grow up.
We are fortunate to be training in good schools. There are so many out there that just churn out the black belts.

keep training hard Choonbee!!


#432293 - 05/03/11 05:14 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: gojuman59]
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Registered: 02/26/11
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I think that there are more schools like ours than most would think, but they aren't the most popular schools around because they are the type of schools that make you earn everything, and nothing is given to you.
To me, even though that mindset isn't popular with the mainstream, it's a good thing in this age of instant gratification.
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