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#431105 - 12/11/10 08:14 AM Surprisefull exam
Ives Offline

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 691
Loc: the Netherlands
Yesterday I had a 2kyu exam, that turned out to be a 1kyu exam. I had trained some of the 2nd and 1st stuff, but I was called to show the stuff for 1st kyu. Which I did, and which was good enough to grant me 1st kyu. Some stuff that wasn't on the examlist had to be performed, which surprised me even more, but it went well.

Has anybody else had similar surprisefull experiences during exams etc.?

#431107 - 12/11/10 09:01 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Ives]
iaibear Offline

Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 1304
Loc: upstate New York
I was attending an Iaido seminar in Canada several years ago.
I was asked if I was there to test for kyu. I said I was unaware that I could.
They asked which kyu would I test for. I said any kyu they would give me, because at the time I was so new to grading, I did not know if kyu counted up or down.
My sensei was an excellent teacher. Otherwise why else would they have granted me a 1st Kyu?
Talk about surprised!

#431110 - 12/11/10 05:25 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: iaibear]
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Never happened to me, but I was working with a guy once who was new to Aikido. I was asked to go through the 6th kyu stuff with him. My old Aikido class only graded annually (i.e. they only graded once a year) and we were waayyyy off the next grading date. The guy was moving through the material pretty well so I asked him one night if he wanted to do some 5th kyu stuff.

The guy was from Slovakia so English wasn't his first language, so there were always a few problems communicatiing. It got to the point were I think he believed the 5th kyu requirements were part of the 6th kyu stuff. After trying to explain what was what, I ended up just doing all of the 6th and 5th stuff with him.

Come grading time, we were doing the stuff and he needed for 6th kyu. As the guy was so use to continuing on after 6th kyu kata, he ploughed on into the 5th kyu stuff. The examiner asked him to do some more stuff after seeing this and awarded the guy his 5th Kyu instead of his 6th.
"Let your food be your medicine, and your medicine be your food" Hippocrates.

#431113 - 12/11/10 11:20 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Prizewriter]
iaibear Offline

Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 1304
Loc: upstate New York
Good for him!

#431135 - 12/13/10 10:29 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Ives]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 3119
Loc: East Coast, United States
Hello Ives:

Surprises sure...

I keep expecting any day now they'll ask for all this "rank" back someday soon.

"... ooops sorry about that, it was a mistake on my part... I came to my senses... I'd like it back a from you please..."


Jeff (Only half kidding)

#431148 - 12/15/10 07:08 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Ronin1966]
Ives Offline

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 691
Loc: the Netherlands
crazy Let's just hope it was good enough for keepers.
At least within our individual schools.

#431165 - 12/16/10 01:18 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Ives]
Mark Jordan Offline

Registered: 06/09/10
Posts: 138
Loc: Burbank, California

Unless if you've only been training less than 3 months, anyone can take a kyu exam to know what level you are at.

Surprised or not, if you pass a kyu exam, you deserve it. Congrats!

#431233 - 12/26/10 06:53 PM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: Mark Jordan]
underdog Offline

Registered: 09/18/04
Posts: 1270
Loc: Mansfield, MA U.S.A.
Happened to me. Had a surprise exam for 3rd dan a few months ago. Congratulations to you! They don't invite you to test if they don't expect you to pass. Sometimes they deliberately want to see what you can do without a lot of exam cramming. We train so that we are learning and prepared all the time. Now keep up your studies.
The older I get, the better I was!

#432246 - 05/01/11 11:04 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: underdog]
JasonM Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 2502
Hate to rehash an old post but I was talking with a friend today and he mentioned something I have never heard of.

He said at his kids TKD school that the instructor will take back a rank if the kid acts up in class and then they have to retake the same test to get the belt back.

I am not sure how I feel on this and was curious if others have experiences this practice.

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#432249 - 05/01/11 11:35 AM Re: Surprisefull exam [Re: JasonM]
Kimo2007 Offline

Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 1057
I've heard about this before but never seen it done. I have no problem with it as rank is somewhat symbolic IMO and a reward of merit and ability. If a student shows they are not mature enough to hold a rank and it can be taken away, I'm all for it. (unless it's just a scheme to get testing fees or some other scam)

On the same note, I'm actually in favor or ranks being earned on a continual basis, not a one time thing. In other sports your ranking is based on your level of ability at the moment. Tiger Woods wa the #1 golfer in the world, then his play slipped as did his rank. MA should have something similar, not exactly the same of course but a separation of achieved ranks and current ability ranks is an interesting idea to me.
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