For those readers not in the U.S. an enviro-nut, inspired by Al Gore's movie took hostages at the headquarters of the Discovery Channel. He is now dead, having been killed by the police when he aimed a gun at one of his hostages. He attacked the Discovery channel because he wanted them to change their programing. He wanted shows produced that would keep people from having more "parasite" human infants that would just pollute the world. He really did not like humanity very much. Most news sources are not relating the fact that he was inspired by Al Gore. They are just saying that he wanted them to change their programming, and not laying out the specifics of his demands. Imagine if he had been something other than an enviro-nut. We wouldn't hear the end of his wackiness. Oh well.

So are you trying to draw some completely inappropriate association here? Or are you just saying that those who walk among us who hold themselves in such high regard as to put their personal views above the sanctity of human life come from all types, creeds and ideologies?

What does this have to do with self defense? In any case, whether or not he did what he did after being influenced by Al Gore or whomever doesn't make a difference because no one from either side would support his actions. It was about him being a psycho and taking his opinions way too far, not Al Gore's environmental ideas. This guy was nuts whether you're left or right or in the middle.

Blah blah blah. So what, he was a nut. So was Tim McVeigh, and so is the Westboro Church. What's your point, Bill? You think there wasn't enough coverage of this incident - despite it being headline material on EVERY news channel and most internet news sites - because of some possible connection to a movie that Al Gore made? Is this another crackpot conspiracy theory from you about the dreaded left-wing?

Quit your whining, crybaby.

I am sure that readers not in the US have access to news media that covered this story.

From my perspective, the real story is the successful response on the part of the employees and the police. Despite some initial confusion, the employees were evacuated safely, including the daycare center, and the police were able to bring about a resolution within hours.

Kathryn

Great, see a crazy guy with a gun call 9-1-1 and don't do anything stupid. Sweet, let's move on as that's abotu all this has to say abotu self defense.

No, really, the logistics of this were impressive. 1900 employees and a daycare center had to be evacuated in four stages. If interested, here's a link:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&pid=0&sid=2042177&page=3


(Just my little attempt to salvage something good from this thread...)

Kathryn

Perhaps the self-defence lesson is to be careful around people who have watched Al Gore's movie.

Why? Because because there is a high probability they can read and do complex fractions?

(sorry but you so had that coming)

That's like saying watch out for people who listen to m and m or Ozzy. There's nothing in any of that that makes you go homicidal. What abotu the hundreds of thousands of peopel who don't committ criems because of Al Gore's movie? How about watch out for people who're mentally unstable, better yet watch out for anyone you don't know. Maybe we shoudl watch out for you. You could be a crazy conservative who goes aroudn bombing abortion clinics.