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#428467 - 07/22/10 08:37 AM Re: UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen [Re: Kathryn]
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Heh, I think the critcisms of Silva are coming more from his apparent disrespect in the cage for his opponents, than from his use of the rules. GSP uses the rules, but manages to do so without ridiculing his opponents.

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#428480 - 07/22/10 01:12 PM Re: UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen [Re: MattJ]
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Originally Posted By: MattJ
Heh, I think the critcisms of Silva are coming more from his apparent disrespect in the cage for his opponents, than from his use of the rules. GSP uses the rules, but manages to do so without ridiculing his opponents.


Yes, rather interesting that they managed to come up with a set of rules that rivals the NFL for sheer legalism, but somehow managed to leave out the ones about general manners in the cage. Seems like they understand their market pretty well.
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#428498 - 07/22/10 06:28 PM Re: UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen [Re: Kathryn]
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One thing that I have always respected about MMA is how they treat each other; a camaraderie of a sort. Many none MMA watchers also have noticed this such as my wife. With Silva's last fight that went out the window and gives MMA a bad name. Add in Strikeforce's after fight "fight" in the ring and the Paul Dailey late punch, this is not all helping MMA.

Nobody doubt's Silva's skills, if you do you pay. But you don't need to be an arrogant a$$ either. He could take some tips from GSP.

I want Sonnen to whoop his a$$ but that probably won't be the case. Plus Sonnen has got the mouth on him too; a perfect match. The mouth against the show boating a$$.
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#428516 - 07/23/10 08:37 AM Re: UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen [Re: Dereck]
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Originally Posted By: Dereck
One thing that I have always respected about MMA is how they treat each other; a camaraderie of a sort. Many none MMA watchers also have noticed this such as my wife. With Silva's last fight that went out the window and gives MMA a bad name. Add in Strikeforce's after fight "fight" in the ring and the Paul Dailey late punch, this is not all helping MMA.
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Dereck, I understand your position on this. I watch UFC fights with a large public group, and it didn't take long to notice that they really enjoy this aspect of it. As the sport has become more mainstream it is playing to the desire for some showboating and trash talking.

I personally don't think that it will cause harm to the sport, but I don't expect to see dojo levels of courtesy in the octagon either.

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#428579 - 07/25/10 01:19 AM Re: UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen [Re: Kathryn]
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They both are a$$es but I want Sonnen to win for the simple reason he's from my neck of the woods. A buddy of mine has actually met the guy. Oregon needs more champs.
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#428946 - 08/08/10 08:05 PM Re: Silva vs. Sonnen (SPOILER) [Re: Stormdragon]
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O.K. Now, no more if,ands or buts. Andersen Silva PROVES he knows how to win! It was a GREAT fight and kudos definitely goes to Sonnen, but after 5 and a half rounds of getting his but whooped, the spider digs deep and comes out on top. Looking forward to that rematch! I'm surprised nobody has posted anything about it yet!

VDJ


Edited by Cord (08/09/10 03:42 AM)

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#428947 - 08/09/10 03:45 AM Re: Silva vs. Sonnen (SPOILER) [Re: VDJ]
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well, having worked over the weekend, I was looking forward to catching up with it on my tivo this morning. Not much point now though frown

Please put 'spoiler' in your subject line in future dude, its the thoughtful thing to do.
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#428948 - 08/09/10 05:41 AM Re: Silva vs. Sonnen (SPOILER) [Re: Cord]
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Cord was right on with his prediction. Crazy. I'm saddened by Sonnen's loss but at least he gave Silva the beating he's been really needing for awhile Sonnen is clearly the better overall fighter, but sh$t happens. You can never be too careful. Silva notices the smallest possible openings and doesn't hesitate to jump on them and doesn't stop trying till it's said and done. Pretty tough.
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#428950 - 08/09/10 08:36 AM Re: Silva vs. Sonnen (SPOILER) [Re: Stormdragon]
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Originally Posted By: Stormdragon
Cord was right on with his prediction. Crazy. I'm saddened by Sonnen's loss but at least he gave Silva the beating he's been really needing for awhile Sonnen is clearly the better overall fighter, but sh$t happens. You can never be too careful. Silva notices the smallest possible openings and doesn't hesitate to jump on them and doesn't stop trying till it's said and done. Pretty tough.


How can you say that Sonnen is "CLEARLY" the overall better fighter when he lost? Its not like it went to the judges card,submissions have been a hole in his game for sometime now and he hasn't fixed it yet! To me thats part of the overall game, quite the contrary here, Silva is getting whopped upon and HE finds the way to win!

VDJ

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#428951 - 08/09/10 09:47 AM Re: Silva vs. Sonnen (SPOILER) [Re: VDJ]
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Great fight for Sonnen, but an incredible win for Silva. This was a comeback for the ages, Lesnar or Fedor-esque. Sonnen did a fantastic job, totally backing up all his pre-fight trash talk with some incredible takedowns. He put Silva down, and kept him there. I can't remember ever seeing Silva being dominated like that.

That said, Silva did an equally masterful job of avoiding serious damage, and snuck in a triangle choke in the tiniest window of opportunity possible.

Anderson showed why he is the champ.

I would be interested in seeing a rematch, though. Not clear to me that Silva could do that again.
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