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#427710 - 06/14/10 09:31 AM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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Originally Posted By: TaekwonDoFan
ITFUnity,

You seem to have cut and paste a very large section of another person's work. This could infringe on his copyright, and I suggest you just refer us to the link in the future.


How do you figure? This stuff is published for the general publics information. He's not claiming that he wrote it or trying to profit from it!

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#427712 - 06/14/10 09:42 AM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: ITFunity]
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Originally Posted By: VDJ
I have a hard time with Americans picking up and moving to China for a better life (which is why Daniel and his Mother moved from Jersey to California). Of course they are moving out of Detroit but I think they could have found a better local than China. I mean if its supposed to be Karate why the hell didn't they go to Japan? VDJ
Ok she didn't move to China for a better life, her company relocated her there. Detroit was the motor city & now it is a fraction of it size, with China being the next big auto maker.
They stuck with the name karate, as it is all kicking & punching to the non-MAist & they wanted to capatilze on the popularity of the 1980s films. Besides they dealt with that in the movie, when he corrected his Mom & said its kung fu & not karate & she replied WHATever!


Please,

Hollywood loves to pass these countries as something that they're not. Japan is still a bigger automaker as is Korea (in regards to U.S. relations). Let me ask you this, would YOU make that move? I sure wouldn't! They could have capitalized on the original in any way they wanted to and as it has been pointed out were not very original about it. This is one reason why I don't go to the movies anymore.

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#427713 - 06/14/10 09:57 AM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: Kathryn]
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I personally have nothing against movie remakes, and I look forward to seeing this one on big screen just for the visuals. By now I am very used to plots that have no strong female characters, that seem written to relate to only the boys in the audience. Watching the Karate Kid as a youngster, I wasn't inspired, because I couldn't find myself anywhere in that movie. The girl was only there to do housework and be fought over. I kind of hope that this version will reach everyone, be more of a universal story.




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#427722 - 06/14/10 03:20 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: Kathryn]
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Originally Posted By: Kathryn
I personally have nothing against movie remakes, and I look forward to seeing this one on big screen just for the visuals. By now I am very used to plots that have no strong female characters, that seem written to relate to only the boys in the audience. Watching the Karate Kid as a youngster, I wasn't inspired, because I couldn't find myself anywhere in that movie. The girl was only there to do housework and be fought over. I kind of hope that this version will reach everyone, be more of a universal story.
I would be interested in hearing your take on the last karate kid movie that starred Hillary Swank, 1 of the most powerful actors I have ever seen, a 2x Oscar winner for best actress?
I am also going to ask the young female students that went on their take on the new one, as I know they enjoyed it.
I will pay more attention to this perspective next group I go with.

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#427723 - 06/14/10 03:21 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: VDJ]
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How do you figure? This stuff is published for the general publics information. He's not claiming that he wrote it or trying to profit from it! VDJ

Sorry didn't think I was doing anything wrong, plus I posted the source for it

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#427724 - 06/14/10 03:27 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: VDJ]
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[quote=VDJ]I have a hard time with Americans picking up and moving to China for a better life (which is why Daniel and his Mother moved from Jersey to California). Of course they are moving out of Detroit but I think they could have found a better local than China. I mean if its supposed to be Karate why the hell didn't they go to Japan? VDJ
Please,
Hollywood loves to pass these countries as something that they're not. Japan is still a bigger automaker as is Korea (in regards to U.S. relations). Let me ask you this, would YOU make that move? I sure wouldn't! They could have capitalized on the original in any way they wanted to and as it has been pointed out were not very original about it. This is one reason why I don't go to the movies anymore.VDJ

look I am not defending hollywood, but you missed my point. In the movie, they did not make the move to China for a btter life. The Mother was relocated their by her company that she worked for in Detroit. You either missed my point & I am sorry if I did not make it clear, or you were making a general statement that didn't address my point. I also said that Detroit is a dying city, it is literally shrinking, as the city leaders are actually knocking down whole blocks & sections of the town that are vacant, turning it into parks & making the residential area smaller, as the population has been fleeing for some time now, since manufacturing went to places like China.
Now I know China is not a big auto maker, but the point was the mom worked for a car company that was relocating to China. I never got the sense that they were moving there for a better life, but rather the reality portrayed was that her job was moved abroad & she followed it

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#427725 - 06/14/10 03:31 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: ITFunity]
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The first karate kid movie was good; the sequels were bad. This remake is better than the sequels but not as good as the original.

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#427730 - 06/14/10 07:00 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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i prefered Karate Kid II to Karate Kid.

Part 3, and Part 4 should just never have been made.

I will watch the remake when it comes round on TV, but at 8 ($11) a ticket, there is no way such an unnecessary remake is worth a trip to the cimema for me.
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#427731 - 06/14/10 07:06 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: ITFunity]
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Originally Posted By: ITFunity
Originally Posted By: VDJ
Originally Posted By: ITFunity
[quote=VDJ]I have a hard time with Americans picking up and moving to China for a better life (which is why Daniel and his Mother moved from Jersey to California). Of course they are moving out of Detroit but I think they could have found a better local than China. I mean if its supposed to be Karate why the hell didn't they go to Japan? VDJ
Please,
Hollywood loves to pass these countries as something that they're not. Japan is still a bigger automaker as is Korea (in regards to U.S. relations). Let me ask you this, would YOU make that move? I sure wouldn't! They could have capitalized on the original in any way they wanted to and as it has been pointed out were not very original about it. This is one reason why I don't go to the movies anymore.VDJ

look I am not defending hollywood, but you missed my point. In the movie, they did not make the move to China for a btter life. The Mother was relocated their by her company that she worked for in Detroit. You either missed my point & I am sorry if I did not make it clear, or you were making a general statement that didn't address my point. I also said that Detroit is a dying city, it is literally shrinking, as the city leaders are actually knocking down whole blocks & sections of the town that are vacant, turning it into parks & making the residential area smaller, as the population has been fleeing for some time now, since manufacturing went to places like China.
Now I know China is not a big auto maker, but the point was the mom worked for a car company that was relocating to China. I never got the sense that they were moving there for a better life, but rather the reality portrayed was that her job was moved abroad & she followed it


Brother,

You can't have it both ways. The relocation is for what, because her job is in jeapordy because of the horrendous economic state that Michigan is in (Been there and seen it first hand, so I know whats going there but we ARE talking about a movie)? If its not for a better life whats it for ? (from the trailer "Look Tre Beverly Hills, always wanted to live in Beverly Hills). Now I personally don't think anyone is going to relocate to a communist country with a HORRENDOUS HUMAN RIGHTS record and think its for the better, but Hollywood LOVES to portray these countries like that. My point, which I think you're missing is thats its IMPLIED even though she may not say it literally. I won't see it nor will I tell anybody to go see it and the same goes for Tong Il.

VDJ

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#427733 - 06/14/10 08:01 PM Re: Karate Kid reviews [Re: VDJ]
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I dont think we should look to an essentialy throw away piece of family entertainment for serious socio-political comment.

Having said that, it is the truth that more and more western companies are outsourcing their production to Chinese factories.
A prime example being the iconic black taxi's synonamous with London. These are now made exclusively in China, and indeed the management and quality control of the plant do rely on british representatives of the company in who's name they are made.

Human rights issues aside, Mauist communism is very different to that of Lenin/Stalinist socialism. The Chinese have always been shrewd business people, and never against the generation of money.

This is why Hong Kong was not tampered with or significantly altered after the return to Chinese control in 1997, and also why skilled labour from outside of china can, and indeed do, take contracts there for an improved quality of life.
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