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#426545 - 04/21/10 01:38 PM Punched to the face kills
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http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12336001

Talk about chitty luck. Ya think it is as simple as a punch and that person hitting their head on the ground?
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#426548 - 04/21/10 03:17 PM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: JasonM]
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Yeah, that seems like a freak occurance to me.
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#426550 - 04/21/10 06:54 PM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: MattJ]
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Not at all Matt, back of head injuries from the head hitting the pavement, is quite a common occurrence. Death can easily result from it.

think about it if you get KO'd your body falls and your head impacts the ground in a whip like action. if you fall then your neck muscles will automatically pull the head up to avoid such impact. But if you are unconscious at the time then there is going to be no resistance and the head is going to hit the ground almost like it was dropped.

There are plenty of reports in the news about this kind of accidental death, if your a Cricket fan You may have heard about David Boon (an Aussie) dieing from a punch by a bouncer. it was the head impact on the cement that did it not the punch.

just recently in Australia, we had a national "One Punch Can Kill" awareness campaign. followed by "Don't Make a Night Out into a Nightmare" campaign which highlights this danger among many others.

with all the risks involved it just isn't worth fighting in the streets
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#426567 - 04/22/10 08:31 AM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: drgndrew]
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Not saying it doesn't happen, but it IS rare. Far more people get punched and don't die than do.
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#426580 - 04/22/10 07:02 PM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: MattJ]
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thats true, but it is more common then most believe. besides using the word rare, reduces the likely hood of someone not punching.

eg it is more likely that you will do something that has a rare chance of failing then a more common chance of failing .

If you know what I mean .

it's also rare that a person will be seriously injured in an altercation , but you don't hear martial artists and SD instructors highlighting that because it deosn't help with retaining students.

Not biggy though
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#426588 - 04/23/10 09:27 AM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: MattJ]
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Originally Posted By: MattJ
Not saying it doesn't happen, but it IS rare. Far more people get punched and don't die than do.


I once had a talk with a police officer who saw a lot of action, as in street altercations. He said that in his experience not many people know how to throw an effective punch. Add alcohol and they lose coordination as well. That may be the reason for a relative lack of fatalities.
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#426645 - 04/26/10 10:26 PM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: drgndrew]
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Originally Posted By: drgndrew
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it's also rare that a person will be seriously injured in an altercation



Spot on there! The human animal is a pretty tough cookie.


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#426860 - 05/02/10 10:14 AM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: JKogas]
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Something like this happened to the British former WAKO champion Alfie Lewis a few years ago. Some men were vandalising his car, so he got out. One threw a punch and he retailiated. The guy fell and hit his head and died. Lewis was charged with manslaughter but found not guilty (see, sometimes the legal system does work properly!).
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#426883 - 05/03/10 03:58 AM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: drgndrew]
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Originally Posted By: drgndrew
Not at all Matt, back of head injuries from the head hitting the pavement, is quite a common occurrence. Death can easily result from it.

think about it if you get KO'd your body falls and your head impacts the ground in a whip like action. if you fall then your neck muscles will automatically pull the head up to avoid such impact. But if you are unconscious at the time then there is going to be no resistance and the head is going to hit the ground almost like it was dropped.

There are plenty of reports in the news about this kind of accidental death, if your a Cricket fan You may have heard about David Boon (an Aussie) dieing from a punch by a bouncer. it was the head impact on the cement that did it not the punch.

just recently in Australia, we had a national "One Punch Can Kill" awareness campaign. followed by "Don't Make a Night Out into a Nightmare" campaign which highlights this danger among many others.

with all the risks involved it just isn't worth fighting in the streets


I've heard and read of this happening many times over the years. It's not "common" per say, but it happens too often. I worked with a guy who got 15yrs for killing someone like this in a bar. He punched the guy, then the guy fell and hit hit head, thus killing him.

Don't punch people, there may very well be unintended consequences.
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#426886 - 05/03/10 04:06 AM Re: Punched to the face kills [Re: BrianS]
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Brian,

I've always prefered punching people in the liver or kidney.
I like inflicting pain, nothing makes me smile like a guy on the floor crying like a baby, and urinating blood the next morning.

(This is just a joke. I've never injured someone that badly before lol).

-Donnie out
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