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#426312 - 04/03/10 07:25 PM David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers*
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David Haye, the Giant killer, faced his toughest oponent yet, in the form of 2 time WBA world Champion John Ruiz. Ruiz is known for his durability, having never been stopped in his career- no mean feat for a top level Heavyweight.

Haye proved his boxing skill and footwork against Valuev, but having broken his right hand early in that fight, there were still questions over if his power had travelled from cruiserweight to the heavyweight class. Also, there has always been a query about his chin.

Tonight David Haye answered all these questions with a style not seen in heavyweight boxing certainly since Lewis, and arguably since the golden age of Tyson.

He put Ruiz on his back within 30 seconds of the 1st round, and then again a minute later.

To Ruiz's credit, he came out hard in the second round, but was outboxed, read like a book, and countered with vicious shots and combos for his valor.

A further 2 knockdowns occured in the 4th and 5th rounds, but Ruiz just would not quit. Ruiz often seemed to be on dead legs, as concussive blows rained down with pinpoint accuracy as not one round went his way.

Come the final minute of the 9th round, after a relatively quiet 8th, Haye unleashed his conserved energy in a brutal barrage that saw the ref step in as Ruiz corner threw in the towel.

To Ruiz's credit, he would have fought till the death, but on this form, Haye would have obliged him before the end of the 12th.

Haye weighed in at a ripped, athletic 15 stone 12lbs (222lbs), and did more damage in 9 rounds than the eastern block giants and the north american dough boys have done in their careers.
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#426313 - 04/03/10 11:13 PM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: Cord]
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This the same John Ruiz who got out boxed by Roy Jones Jr. and lost the heavy weight championship belt to a middle/light weight champ?

Ruiz is the most boring fighter in the history of boxing. Butterbean is more exciting.

Ruiz has little skills. Spends the majority of his fights clinched up to his opponents and makes them hold up his wait that way he gets them tired and he makes his move in the late rounds.

Right now the best heavy weights are the Klitschko's. And the only challengers they face are those giant freaks of nature European fighters who happen to be the biggest white heavy weight guys in the history of boxing. Their names don't come to mind, but these guys are huge however they are not athletic as the Klitschko's.
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#426314 - 04/03/10 11:58 PM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: TeK9]
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Its the Ruiz who is a 2 time world champ, and who everyone has made real heavy work of due to his chin, his durability and his spoiling tactics.

Haye blew him away.

Tell you what, rather than talk drivel about fighters you dont even know the name of, why not wait for the footage to hit the net and watch this fight. Its what I did - watch it that is. You will change your mind.

Haye will beat both Klitchko's and unify the heavyweight division before the autumn of 2011. You heard it here first.
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#426318 - 04/04/10 12:07 PM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: Cord]
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Haye was awesome. Seen him at the World Amateur Championships in 2001 (he won Silver that year). He was a big lad even though he was barely more than a teenager.

Since then I have made a point of watching all his fights as a pro. Haye to beat both the Klitschko's, as Cord said.

And full credit to Haye for fighting guys like Ruiz and Valuev. Although far from Hall of Fame Heavyweights, these guys were at least a the top end of today's division.

The Klitschkos meanwhile continue to fight gentlemen of the standard of Kevin Johnson, Chris Arreola and Eddie Chambers. Not so much as a who's who of modern heavyweights as a "Who's that?"

I reckon Haye will fight at least one of the brothers this year.
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#426320 - 04/04/10 03:59 PM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: Prizewriter]
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Are you kidding me...you guys are giving him props for beating Ruiz...Ruiz is a joke. He has no skill.

A ballooned up Roy Jones Jr went from 183 to 205 just to fight Ruiz who was well over 225+ and beat him and won the heavy weight championship.

I don't know who this Hayes is yet. But it is definitely no big deal that he beat Ruiz.
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#426326 - 04/04/10 07:24 PM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: TeK9]
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Tek

Like Cord said, check the guy out first, then make up your mind.

Ruiz has some skill. His method is unpleasant to watch, but it has been highly effective for him. He has lost a few high profile fights, but he as also beat guys like Jameel McCline (who was far larger than Ruiz), Andrew Golota, Fres Oquendo ( who was at one point the "next big thing"), Hasim Rahman. Again, these guys aren't hall of famers, but they were solid, strong heavyweights. No way would Ruiz beat them with no skill.

I dislike Ruiz's methods as much as the next person, but as I said it is effective. Even in today's barren heavyweight division, you don't get to that level without having skill. Ruiz made the most of what he had and did very well for himself.

It wasn't that Haye simply beat Ruiz, it was the way he beat him. He knocked him down 4 times in 9 rounds. Additionally, he was savvy enough with his boxing skills to keep dancing round Ruiz when he needed to. It was a great example of stick ' move. At no point did it ever look time becoming a Ruiz clinch n' hit snooze fest. Haye never allowed it to happen.

Haye also has astonishing KO power, and is arguably the biggest puncher in the division. I've been training on and off in boxing for 10 years. Haye's got the goods.

Do yourself a favour and check him out.
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#426390 - 04/08/10 05:24 AM Re: David Haye vs John Ruiz *spoilers* [Re: TeK9]
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Originally Posted By: TeK9
Are you kidding me...you guys are giving him props for beating Ruiz...Ruiz is a joke. He has no skill.

A ballooned up Roy Jones Jr went from 183 to 205 just to fight Ruiz who was well over 225+ and beat him and won the heavy weight championship.

I don't know who this Hayes is yet. But it is definitely no big deal that he beat Ruiz.


You're not getting it. Ruiz is far from an outstanding heavyweight, yet he has been good enough to win world belts twice.
Haye has come along and destroyed him, just as a true worldclass heavyweight should.
The Klitchko's have avoided Valuev, avoided Ruiz, and taken hand picked oponents from the cr4p and the fat that make up the majority of the heavyweight scene. Even then, they stiff arm their way to decision or 12 round stoppages.

Now you have Haye, who is not just an exciting and skillfull heavyweight in comparison to this era, (arguably the worst decade heavyweight boxing has ever seen), but could hold his own with any of the champs of any era.
His footwork and mobility are the best the heavyweight scene has had arguably since Ali, and his punching power is ridiculous. He has already unified the Cruiserweight division, and he did this drained and fighting his natural build. Now he is a heavyweight, he is fast becoming a force of nature, and certainly nothing like the Klitchko's have ever faced.

You havent heard of him, but your ignorance does not diminish his skills.
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