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#425739 - 03/08/10 07:00 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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hmmm, i somehow can't see Samuel Jackson as shonuff. But we shall see.
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#425743 - 03/08/10 01:42 PM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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That raises an interesting question to me -- does the martial artist completely carry the film, and is it possible to have different actors put their spin on a given character.

I got an interesting answer to that while watching book of Eli. I just about went out of my chair when (SPOILER ALERT) Denzel Washington pulled a classic Zatoichi move. (I started a little post about that and hope to post it soon.)
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#425758 - 03/09/10 09:10 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Kathryn]
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In this day and age, it is no longer a 'big deal' when a lead actor gets involved with doing their own fight scenes.

Remember all the publicity centred around the Matrix because Keanu and Fishburn had their own kung fu instructors for 6 intensive months prior to filming?

Since then, it has become the norm. Nobody made nearly as much of Tommy Lee Jones and Del Toro learning Sayoc Kali for 'The Hunted', or Snipes MA skills in the Blade movies, or Bale and Neeson learning Keysi JKD for Batman. Then there was Angelina learning Krav for Tomb Raider, Farrell and co stars going on a recreated period boot camp for Alexander.

Actors have now realised that they must work on their physical skills for physical roles in physical films.

Martial artists have yet to show the same dedication and flexibility in regards to becomming actors for their chance on the silver screen
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#425760 - 03/09/10 12:27 PM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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Originally Posted By: TaekwonDoFan
Yes, you should be careful what you wish for.

They're remaking "Enter the Dragon", and it's going to be a noir-style film. I'm not sure I want to know what that means.


What



The






Frick!
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#425770 - 03/10/10 02:47 PM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: MattJ]
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*facepalm*
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#425778 - 03/11/10 11:49 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Originally Posted By: TaekwonDoFan
Yes, you should be careful what you wish for.

They're remaking "Enter the Dragon", and it's going to be a noir-style film. I'm not sure I want to know what that means.


I thought the same thing when I heard they were remaking the Karate Kid. But after seeing the preview I'd have to say, if done right a remake can be great...it opened my mind (at least until I see the actual film and it under delivers)

As for the title, if you look to movies to be accurate in the depiction of any profession, you will have a long look. Movies are fantasy and will always take good drama over reality every time.

The title is based purely on the original, the story line is clearly the same and as someone said, the Kung Fu kid...just doesn't work.

I would think the Kung Fu guys would be excited to see their art painted in such a romantic and beautiful way. But if you tune in and start looking for technical accuracy, you will ruin it for yourself.
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#425795 - 03/11/10 09:17 PM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Kimo2007]
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I think this new Karate Kid movie has promise. They have modernized it so its less corny. They have some beautiful scenes in this movie and the training seems to be more athletic rather than metaphoric. They not only show the beauty of the arts but capture the discipline required.
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#425798 - 03/12/10 05:01 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Kimo2007]
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Originally Posted By: Kimo2007
As for the title, if you look to movies to be accurate in the depiction of any profession, you will have a long look. Movies are fantasy and will always take good drama over reality every time.

The title is based purely on the original, the story line is clearly the same and as someone said, the Kung Fu kid...just doesn't work.


But by that logic, The Magnificent Seven should be called The Seven Samurai. That wouldnt have made any more sense than this.

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I would think the Kung Fu guys would be excited to see their art painted in such a romantic and beautiful way. But if you tune in and start looking for technical accuracy, you will ruin it for yourself.


Kung Fu is only EVER portrayed in a romantic beautiful way in movies. Will Smith's son is not going to chllenge early Jet Li or Donnie Yen as an exemplar of the grace of wu shu.

If its not karate, then its not about a karate kid. Be like going to see Iron Man 2 and it starring spiderman instead. Sure, he's a superhero, but not the one the title suggested would be appearing.
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#425804 - 03/12/10 10:27 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Cord]
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Good points made on both sides.

The original was largely responsible for getting more kids interested in Karate in the '80s, so I have a hunch Kung Fu will see a similar rise in popularity after the new movie comes out.
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#425806 - 03/12/10 11:27 AM Re: Why are they calling it "The Karate Kid"... [Re: Zombie Zero]
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but it wont, because all the kids will be sent to karate class to learn what they have seen in a kung fu movie.

In the 70's, there were unscrupulous Karate teachers who advertised themselves as 'kung fu' to cash in on the Bruce Lee craze.

In the 80's there were so many wierd and wonderful fake ninjutsu schools set up to cash in on the straight to video 'ninja boom'.

What the hell is going to happen if this film takes off!!??

Just another nail of misinformation and misrepresentation in the coffin of martial arts
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