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#423236 - 10/29/09 03:57 PM Re: A complete program [Re: Bushido_Child]
Aesir Offline
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Registered: 07/17/07
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Mate Cord does a lot around here for everyone and he wants to help you, so don't knock it because his knowledge and advice is really helpful.

What sort of MA do you specialise in? When you say you teach yourself what do you mean? How do you teach yourself and what do you teach yourself?

If your mates can get to MA practise why can't you? If your mates help you learn because you can't afford it what do they learn?

Be a bit more specific and people will help you :-)

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#423240 - 10/29/09 05:02 PM Re: A complete program [Re: Aesir]
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BC -

Why don't you spell out what your goals are. Are you looking for strength? For size? Anaerobic conditioning? Aerobic conditioning? Are you just striking, or is there grappling involved? What is the ratio? How often do you train for fighting versus how much time you have for strengthening?

These are the types of things Cord would need to know.
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#423250 - 10/30/09 06:30 AM Re: A complete program [Re: MattJ]
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Then why didn't he just asked me,rather trying to show off his knowledge ?

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What sort of MA do you specialise in?


Striking.Boxing,Mhuai Thai,Kenpo Karate,TKD.

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When you say you teach yourself what do you mean? How do you teach yourself and what do you teach yourself?


I mean watching videos,reading materials,all that is available through Internet.My friends are not from my town.They occasionally come to visit.
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How often do you train for fighting versus how much time you have for strengthening?


3 days technique 4 days strenghtening.

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If your mates help you learn because you can't afford it what do they learn?


One is training TKD,two- Boxing,one- Combat Sambo

My goals ? Explosive strength.Size doesn't matter to me as long as I can deal the damage.Also anaerobics because I lose my breath pretty fast. 3 3minute shadow boxing drills are enough to put me down...


Edited by Bushido_Child (10/30/09 06:36 AM)

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#423265 - 10/30/09 07:27 PM Re: A complete program [Re: Bushido_Child]
Cord Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bushido_Child
Ok I'm tired of explaining myself over and over.Every time you take a different stand but in the end you don't get any of it.If you don't want to help It's ok.You're not obligated or anything.But please don't talk like you understand my situation or the MA rules in Bulgaria.And I'm well aware of all MA federations in BG or mainly.Just because I don't train officially doesn't mean that I'm in the dark about that stuff.Not everything you read in Internet is like it is in real life.


*sigh* I am not taking different stands, I am maintaining a simple truth, that being, I need to know what you do, and what an experienced teacher has picked up on as your weaknesses.

Think about this scenario:
A guy walks into a tuning shop,and says 'I want a kit to improve the performance of my car'
The shopkeeper says, 'Sure thing, what car have you got?'
Guy: 'I havent got one'
Shopkeeper: 'er...ok, its just that different models have different specs, and specific parts, not to mention different good and bad points'
Guy: ' Dont give me your sh1t, I just want a tuning kit to make a car go better!!'
Shopkeeper: 'I understand that, but I dont even know what you will be using your non existant car for? Track? Road? Rally? '
Guy: 'Argh!!! Stop with the attitude you f*cker I JUST WANT MY CAR TO GO FAST'

Stop being that guy and I might be able to help you more constructively, until then, all I can say is that you should read up on 'posterior chain' and core stability, and work with those in mind. Its a lame non specific answer in response to lame non specific information.

Real pity, as I could help you if you had a clue as to what you needed help with.
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#423269 - 10/31/09 05:06 AM Re: A complete program [Re: Cord]
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First off...That analogy is laughable and is in no connection whatsoever..Just trying to demonise me and to not give a damn...I answered every question you asked me...I don't know what else to tell you...My blood type? My prefference in food ?The info is according to your questions so insulting me is like insulting yourself...I already told you...If you don't wanna help...IT'S OK...So don't come and write [censored] about me just because you don't have anything else to do...It seems you read only your posts...as in every post I said what I need...So if in your next post there isn't training exercises,don't even bother to write...


Edited by Bushido_Child (10/31/09 05:10 AM)

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#423271 - 10/31/09 10:14 AM Re: A complete program [Re: Bushido_Child]
Cord Offline
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First off...That analogy is laughable and is in no connection whatsoever..


Fail. Making a combustion engine analogus of the body works very well - you either dont understand physiology, or engine mechanics, or both.

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I answered every question you asked me


Right, TKD, Boxing, Muay Thai and something else right? All from books and videos, and all at once.
Tell me, do you find the biomechanics of keeping your weight through your your back foot in muay thai, and through your front foot in western boxing causes you problems to learn in unison? What about the difference in hand guard, including rotation or forearm? In which style do you find your power more compromised, and why do you feel this is? WHAT DOES YOUR INSTRUCTOR PERCIEVE TO BE YOUR PROBLEMS?

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If you don't wanna help...IT'S OK...So don't come and write [censored] about me just because you don't have anything else to do.


Whilst your right to call yourself a Martial Artist is in question, there can be no doubt that you really are 18.

Enjoy being 'That guy' , its always fun to look back on when you wise up.

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...It seems you read only your posts...as in every post I said what I need...So if in your next post there isn't training exercises,don't even bother to write...


If you read my last post, you would see I gave you generic tools to improve generic attributes for your generic punchbag heroics. Who's not paying attention now wink

As a moderator, it is my duty to remind you that personal attacks and swearing are not allowed on the forums. Play nice, or be locked out of the playground for a while. I can do that you see, so cool your boots young jedi smile
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#423275 - 10/31/09 11:18 AM Re: A complete program [Re: Cord]
Bushido_Child Offline
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Registered: 01/30/09
Posts: 9
So I'm warned and being intimidated because of the rules,but you are free to "attack" me just because you're a moderator ? Quite the hypocrite aren't you ?I don't know what made up boxing stance you tend to know...but weight is distributed evenly on both legs...And no,I've trained them separately...For me it's not hard to switch between stances...Well it doesn't matter anymore...At first it seemed that this would be a helpfull place.I guess I was wrong...Soo if you want to stroke your ego go ahead and ban me...

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#423276 - 10/31/09 12:06 PM Re: A complete program [Re: Bushido_Child]
Cord Offline
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I dont want to ban you dear boy, I want to help you, but some are too busy drowning to grab a float.

Rather than playing the victim (which you are not), why not just take a breath and decide what is ticking you off more - the fact that a workout cannot be prescribed until i know what art you are studying, and what your physical issues are in relation to that art - or the fact that I am questioning if you are really doing any martial arts at all?

If its the former, then I am sorry, but without specifics, a specific answer is impossible, but working your posterior chain and core is a good 'blanket' strategy to improve physical performance in general.

If its the latter, then I am sorry to offend, but the difference between experienced tuition, and making your own way from scratch from books and videos is HUGE!!!!!

I applaud your enthusiasm, and think its great that you have a love for the idea of martial arts, but until you actually get instruction, you are only doing what you think is Muay Thai, TKD and Boxing, but when you do get to train in a school in the future, be prepared for a shock.

Enjoy the forums

Cord.
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#423317 - 11/02/09 06:29 AM Re: A complete program [Re: Cord]
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Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 3028
Loc: Salem, OR
Brief thread hijack, for Cord- What's the necessity to keeping exactly to your program? Like right now I'm doing 3 exercises for large muscles (I.E chest and back, legs, etc) and 2 for smaller muscles (biceps and tricepts, etc.) with 6,4,4,4,4.
However on my last set or two sometimes I'll bust out a few partials after hitting failure with full ROM. Or every few workouts I'll change from pyramiding up with that set/rep scheme to drop sets or else just add a high rep set at the end to "burn out" (as they say). If I feel a muscle is lagging I'll add an exercise. So I have basic routine but I vary some workouts. Anything wrong with that? I'm gaining muscle and strength, not as much as I'd really like but I've never been naturally athletic anyway (point of note right now I'm training for like a bodybuilder for primarily aesthetic purpsoes, and that's just what I'm looking for right now, the only fucntional need I have right now is to be able to manhandle an 85 lbs. awkward machine gun by myself on a daily basis and I have no problems with it at this point).
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#423362 - 11/03/09 02:08 PM Re: A complete program [Re: Stormdragon]
Cord Offline
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Posts: 11113
Loc: Cambridge UK.
Originally Posted By: Stormdragon
Brief thread hijack, for Cord- What's the necessity to keeping exactly to your program? Like right now I'm doing 3 exercises for large muscles (I.E chest and back, legs, etc) and 2 for smaller muscles (biceps and tricepts, etc.) with 6,4,4,4,4.
However on my last set or two sometimes I'll bust out a few partials after hitting failure with full ROM. Or every few workouts I'll change from pyramiding up with that set/rep scheme to drop sets or else just add a high rep set at the end to "burn out" (as they say). If I feel a muscle is lagging I'll add an exercise. So I have basic routine but I vary some workouts. Anything wrong with that? I'm gaining muscle and strength, not as much as I'd really like but I've never been naturally athletic anyway (point of note right now I'm training for like a bodybuilder for primarily aesthetic purpsoes, and that's just what I'm looking for right now, the only fucntional need I have right now is to be able to manhandle an 85 lbs. awkward machine gun by myself on a daily basis and I have no problems with it at this point).


There is no 'necessity' to recording your workouts or sticking to an exact workout. What you are doing is known as 'instinctive training' and its something I have done for years. You do have to be exoerienced, and really know your own body for it to work to its best potential, and you should have a good memory so as to keep a rough idea of comparative analysis workout to workout as you re-visit exercises.

I have switched back to record keeping because its important to have a linear record of prgression for my rehab and my physio's records, and also because psychologicaly, it can help keep you focussed. For years, I have been happy to train for enjoyment, and have not really had a 'fire in my belly' to improve, so instinctive work was perfect - varied, fun, trial and error stuff cool
Having had an imposed zero-training situation for over 3 months, I have come back jonesing like a junkie, and a need to not only recover, but finish 2010 better and stronger than I was pre-injury. For me, that means rigid, defined, planned, intense effort. Every rep recorded for posterity, every workout mentaly rehearsed pior, and analysed afterwards.

These are things that instinctive training cannot encompass.

It is still better to train the way that suits you, and that you find 'works' for you as a person, but be sure when choosing instinctive methods that you really find it best, and not just use it to mask a lack of goals/focus to your efforts smile
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