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#422867 - 10/09/09 06:09 PM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: Dereck]
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I use that grip for back squats so that I don't put too much strain on my wrists. Your hands don't really hold the bar up anyway, so wouldn't it be safe for squats?
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#422869 - 10/10/09 04:42 AM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: THEGENERAL]
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That's fine because if your grip slips on squats, the bar will fall behind you most times anyway, though I would point out that if your wrists cant take a normal grip on squats, then you are lacking flexibility in your shoulder capsule, so you might want to address that.
Also, you do want to be putting some pressure into the bar through your hands, as it helps contract the traps and delts, creating a safer platform for the weight. The last thing you want is the bar actually resting on your spine - can cause painful calcium build up over time, and with heavy squating, the pressure can be a real medical danger.
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#422872 - 10/10/09 01:11 PM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: Cord]
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Originally Posted By: Cord
That's fine because if your grip slips on squats, the bar will fall behind you most times anyway, though I would point out that if your wrists cant take a normal grip on squats, then you are lacking flexibility in your shoulder capsule, so you might want to address that.
Also, you do want to be putting some pressure into the bar through your hands, as it helps contract the traps and delts, creating a safer platform for the weight. The last thing you want is the bar actually resting on your spine - can cause painful calcium build up over time, and with heavy squating, the pressure can be a real medical danger.


My hands DO put pressure on the bar, as I keep everything (shoulders, upper back, arms, traps, etc) to hold it up correctly. It's just that I find that if I put my thumbs around the bar that my wrists sometimes get a little too much pressure, making them hurt after a bit after a set of heavy squats.

And if you're going to ask, no, my wrists never hurt after any pressing exercise :-)
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#422876 - 10/11/09 08:51 AM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: THEGENERAL]
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I wasnt going to ask that, I merely point out that what you are talking about happens because your shoulder capsules are too tight to get your hand position truly 'under' the bar, so your wrists out of line in an effort to make up the last bit of the range of movement that your shoulders cannot accomodate.

Thats just the truth.
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#423553 - 11/15/09 12:59 PM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: Cord]
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-usc-johnsonhurt&prov=ap&type=lgns

LOS ANGELES (AP)—Although Stafon Johnson only spoke seven words, they were loaded with meaning and hope.

Repeating the last words spoken to him by his late grandfather, the Southern California tailback said, “God has a plan. Run, Stafon, run.”

Johnson already can speak in a soft, raspy voice less than three months after a weight bar crushed his throat in a potentially fatal weight room accident. He briefly demonstrated his remarkable recovery Saturday before the Trojans’ game against Stanford.

“Just the whisper, it was a big thing,” said Kim Mallory, Johnson’s mother. “I wasn’t expecting any type of sound for a while. It’s overwhelming.”

Johnson also has regained the ability to swallow and eat solid food, an improbably quick achievement after several operations on his neck, according to the doctors who have supervised his recovery since the late-September accident in the USC weight room.

Dr. Ryan Osborne said the tracheostomy tube has been removed from Johnson’s throat, and he no longer has a feeding tube in his stomach.

“Anyone looking at him today, or who heard the story, would say it’s miraculous,” said Dr. Jason Hamilton, a throat specialist. “No physician can tell a patient what his chances are for recovery. He never put limitations on himself, and that’s why he’s making great strides.”

Johnson has had three more operations since leaving the hospital Oct. 14. His right vocal cord was torn away from its mooring and his larynx was crushed.

His doctors seemed even more impressed by his ability to swallow, thinking it might be impossible for someone with such a severe injury.

“Due to a gladiator-type mentality toward his outcome … he has regained the ability to swallow,” Osborne said.

It’s too early to tell whether Johnson has the interest or ability to return to the sport. When asked if he intended to play for USC next season, he responded with a shrug.

Mallory isn’t surprised by Johnson’s determination. Johnson decided he wanted to play football when he was 5 years old, and no amount of cajoling from his mother—“Don’t you want to play baseball? Don’t you think basketball is better?” she recalled saying—could dissuade him from the violent sport.

“(There are) good days, bad days, but because Stafon is a fighter, there’s never been any (depression),” Mallory said.

Johnson only gets emotional at the thought of not being able to speak to his young son, Stafon Jr., but he’s not even on medication for pain or depression, a common necessity for patients with similar injuries.

Johnson’s doctors and family all seem optimistic for something approaching a full recovery.

“Will there be any limitations on him?” Osborne asked. Those are only going to be set by Stafon.”
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#423556 - 11/16/09 01:46 AM Re: USC tailback dropped weight bar on neck [Re: JoelM]
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Good lad.

The advantage that those with training experience have in such times, is that we already how ready the body is to improve, and we also already have a benchmark to recognise 'good' pain, 'bad' pain, and when we need to push, and ease off.

We are all also very used to using focus on a goal to channel , or expell, negative emotions.

Not saying you become a machine, but when it comes to rehab, you are half way there, because its just another workout, and when you love to workout, you are going to get good results
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