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#420595 - 07/03/09 09:46 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: IExcalibui2]
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Registered: 03/12/09
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What is the etiquette when going into a new school? Is it cool to ask for demonstrations and even a light spar? Taking Buddha Hand Wing Chun as my main art, what would be a good other art? Muay Thai seems like a cool art to study. I saw some Kenpo schools around. What is the most bang for my buck?
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#420596 - 07/04/09 12:01 AM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: SifuHax]
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I personally love Muay Thai and think it flows with, and fills in some gaps in Wing Chun (unless of course I was a master with mad skills, which there are very few of).
But don't go in asking for anything. Train what they show you. If you get some free sparring time, work some of your WC in to see what happens. The results are usually mixed, and should be. A student may ask you where you pulled that crazy technique from after a good spar, then you can talk about what you do. But for the most part - empty cup. JMO.

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#420607 - 07/04/09 02:20 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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just go in and watch, see what they do, how their train. But like Shikata said, don't really ask of anything.

but if you're talking about taking up another MA, first you have to ask the might Google what schools are around you first. Can't take up Muay Thai when the nearest school is 2 hours away. Search first then we could probably give you some better recommendations
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#420609 - 07/04/09 02:41 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: IExcalibui2]
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Always be polite and observe. Some schools are run by people like me. I offer anyone and everyone a chance to touch hands or spar if they want. We also have open mat saturday. Anyone can come in and spar/ train if they agree to the rules and don't seem crazy. Working out or friendly sparring is not a fight to the death and you don't try to hurt anyone.

Some schools wont touch hands with a stranger at all.

You must also keep in mind that your asking about sparring may be taken as a type of challenge. There are those that will seek to dominate any type of " friendly challenge' . Leung Ting schools for example are taught the following. Some one wants to roll,or do some chi sau etc. Most schools will roll a few times and then do some soft or light attacks to test things out slowly. Leung Ting folks will touch your hands and then immediately attack hard trying to dominate and intimidate.

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#420638 - 07/06/09 06:14 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: donchisau]
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Don Chi Sau, I haven't seen you post anything in a while.

Thanks folks for the advice.
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#421437 - 08/10/09 04:36 AM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: SifuHax]
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Good post Don, I'd add that it doesn't hurt to ask some questions if you're not seeing what you're looking for-

I've sat in on classes before where unfortunately the regular class doesn't practice anything close to resembling what the "black belts" are practicing (which is realistically where you want to go isn't it?)- I asked the trainer if they did any open hand techniques and got a really good response, had a spar and got a much better appreciation for their style than had I sat back. (Incidently they sucked so didn't go back, but finding out they suck up front saves a lot of money down the track)

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#422573 - 09/28/09 07:05 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: IExcalibui2]
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Registered: 06/15/09
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Loc: Ohio
Something Im having a hard time understanding... What is wrong with learning pure styles? I understand using styles that work to your advantages, but why an entire new catagory for mma? Most of it looks like standard american wrestling with a few kicks. I personaly am in love with the pure shaolin styles Im learning, and quickly becomming less and less impressed with most forms of karate and newer ma's. Anyone else agree? or am I just crazy?

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#422581 - 09/29/09 01:23 AM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: BigWiggly]
IExcalibui2 Offline
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I'm not sure I ever really expressed negative views on learning 1 martial art....

and what is a "pure" style?
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#422596 - 09/29/09 06:44 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: IExcalibui2]
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Not to mention Chung Lee/Sanshou defeating MMA legend Frank Shamrock. I don't know why Frank decided to stand up with him but I bet he knows better now. I still say style has nothing to do with it effective techniques, its how hard to train.

Sorry I don't have the Youtube video but its out there.
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#422597 - 09/29/09 07:20 PM Re: Kung Fu destroying in MMA bouts. [Re: Neko456]
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My prediction of Shamrock winning 2nd round via submission flew out the window when he announced that he was going to try and stand with Cung....he could've won the fight if he grappled more but oh well. Stupid decisions will result in broken arms

yea i can care less about WHAT techniques you train, so long as you are training in the right way
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