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#268159 - 11/18/06 07:19 AM Re: Becoming a doorman [Re: jamesd]
mark Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
I took my years in the Police, working on the doors and training in the MA, and started teaching the qualifications acceptable to the SIA for the various security licenses in the UK.

I have run 100s of security training courses, unfortunately McSensei your experiences with the SIA are all too common.

Also found that the training is quite varied, especially the conflict management, really does need to be taught by a “real world “instructor.

BTW you should have been given a proper course book, what is the qualification you have? Bii, City & Guilds or NCFE?
I charge Ł149+vat for 4 days, doesn’t seem to me you had a good deal. But at least you have your license.

Give this site a look:- www.workingthedoors.co.uk

Their forum is down at the moment but, when its up, just read the SIA/training horror stories, I also enjoy the real world violent encounters they relate, very different to some of the cyber wanabees, that are all to often seen on MA forums…

Regards

Mark

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#268160 - 11/27/06 05:58 PM Re: A Doorman's Diary. [Re: mark]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kent, England
Friday night, 7;00PM - 12;30AM

The Bridge House Inn, Upminster.

So here it is at last. My first night on the door.
Absolutely nothing happened, apart from escorting two fellas out the door because they were too drunk to be served anymore.
No arguments or harsh words, they accepted what they were told and left peacefully.
This I am led to believe is what the job is like most of the time, which is ok with me, but it was extremely boring.
I was sure that tomorrow night was going to be more exciting as I was booked to work at one of Gavins old doors in Southend. The Sun Rooms, where the Combat Arena meets are held.
I started at 9;30PM and was on till about 2;30AM and guess what....nothing happened!!!
Still it was a more interesting night as the guy I was working with just would not stop talking, as opposed to the guy I was with on Friday, who for the first couple of hours I thought was a mute!!!
Anyway, Gavins dad John showed up and that broke the boredom a bit as well, as we chatted for a while and later Gavin came round and we posed for a couple of pictures that I'm sure he will post up soon.

So that's it, two nights down and absolutely no trouble whatsoever.
I know that I should want the job to stay this way, but you can't help hoping for a little excitement.

Careful what you wish for and all that...


Edited by McSensei (01/15/07 05:58 PM)
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#268161 - 11/28/06 03:45 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: McSensei]
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Loc: Southend, Essex, UK
Welcome to the glamarous world of doorwork!

Can't find the cable to get the pictures off!

The job can get so bloody boring at times that you actually "will it" to geek off. My Dad always says you should be careful what you wish for! Wait til your first proper shout... the buzz is something quite special when you run to your first. And if you pull it off well you'll be floating on cloud nine!

Anway you looked very dapper and seemed to take to the job like a duck to water!
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#268162 - 11/28/06 09:22 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: McSensei]
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Congrats on finally getting through all the details to get the door job. I did industrial/building security for a while, mostly midnight shift. Very boring.

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#268163 - 11/28/06 05:52 PM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: McSensei]
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Ah yes, the strange contradiction inherent in the job. If you do it well, you get what you should be delighted with- a nice uneventful night, but there will always be a bit of you that wants another story for your collection . Comes with having a nature that does not shy from confrontation.
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#268164 - 11/29/06 03:23 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: Cord]
Gavin Offline
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Loc: Southend, Essex, UK
How true is that! How many people have you spoke to who say "You don't do anything... you just stand there!" Especially Management who fail to see that "nothing happening" means we're doing our job properly, they see it is "why have I got doormen when I haven't got trouble?" How quickly do the scum move in when the doormen move out?

Security is like insurance, waste of money when you don't need it, a life saver when you needed and a total diaster if you need it and ain't got it!
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#268165 - 11/29/06 04:02 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: Gavin]
mark Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
--"Especially Management who fail to see that "nothing happening" means we're doing our job properly----

That is so very true!!

mark

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#268166 - 11/30/06 08:50 PM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: mark]
Midnightcrawler Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 184
Loc: England
Quote:

--"Especially Management who fail to see that "nothing happening" means we're doing our job properly----

That is so very true!!

mark




Mark & Gavin,

The problem isn't so much the management 'on site', but rather the management at 'head office' and in particular the company accountant or 'financial controller'.

These persons tend to think in terms of 'bottom line profit', and if an activity is not perceived as contributing to that profit then it is seen as having no or little value. For example, wet sales can be measured by square foot of floor space, customer head count on any given night, measured as per head of staff on duty, or in some instances I've known it to be measured by the length of each bar in the building. The same applies to dry sales, bar snacks of all the different varieties, and even cigarette sales. IE, why is this machine producing more revenue than the other? Can we move the machine to improve performance?

The same could be said of the 'entertainment' provided, does one band or DJ pull in more punters than another? If so why and can we beg, steal, borrow or poach that band or DJ from the club they are currently working in? You might even get the same questions asked from head office about glass collectors or waitresses of you have any.

The reason H/O look at it this way is because in each instance all things are measurable, except? The contribution of the door staff.

Stay safe on the door.

MC.
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#268167 - 12/02/06 11:39 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: Midnightcrawler]
McSensei Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1068
Loc: Kent, England
Friday, 1st December.
The William Camden, Bexleyheath. 7;00PM - Midnight.

Arrived at the pub to be told that all that is required of me for the night is checking IDs so that they have no underage drinkers.
After a couple of hours the manager came out to us and complained that there were some lads in that he thought were about 12. The guy I was working with said they must have come in before we started and out of curiosity we decided to have a look at them to see how old they looked. Okay, they looked fairly young, but no younger than half the people in the pub. The ironic thing is that the manager had still been serving them for the past few hours and then has the audacity to complain to us that we had let them in!!!!
Oh well, c'est la vie.
Half past ten rolls around and we shut the doors as no-one is supposed to be allowed in after that time. Virtually every single person we turned away was then allowed in by the manager. Talk about being undermined. Still, it's his pub and I guess he can do what he likes, but I think it sends out the wrong message, being inconsistent and all that.
About half past elevenand we get a call to one of the bars to eject two customers that are getting rather aggressive towards one another. Round we go and escort one guy out and as I go back in for the other I see the manager is serving him a drink. Once again I tell myself it's his pub and he can do what he wants, but personally I felt that they both should have had to leave.

So that was it for my 3rd night on the door. I'm back at the Sun Rooms in Southend again tonight so watch this space...
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#268168 - 12/02/06 11:51 AM Re: A Doormans Diary. [Re: McSensei]
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Sounds like you needed to escort the manager out the door, too. "Right guv, had about enough of you flip-flopping. Out the door you go."

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