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#426224 - 03/31/10 10:55 AM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: ITFunity]
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Originally Posted By: ITFunity
Originally Posted By: TaekwonDoFan
My problem with these debates is that the Cold War is long over, and North Korea (and Cuba) are lonely holdouts to a failed ideology. So I don't care about communist TKD versus capitalist TKD, because, as Bruce Lee says, a kick is a kick, a punch is a punch.

Yes the "Cold War" is over. But with Korea it is at an all time height of tension, reference to the SK Navy ship that sank in the waters close to the disputed border with NK, that NK never accepted the UN designation for. This is fact & it does impact TKD politics more than people suspect.


Absolutely. I have always said we should use military means to liberate the North. But no master is going to side with North Korea these days, so, in that sense, international politics have nothing to do with the fragmentation of ITF TKD.

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#426235 - 03/31/10 05:28 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: flynch]
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flynch

Was that your foot that broke those 3 boards?

This thread has totally turned into one of those karate threads were they discuss forms. And all because of the sign wave? How about discuss how you put that sign wave to use in sparring. If it can be. At least if it can be done the same way its done in the patterns.

This is something that never happens in Olympic style schools since the training is focused on being functional for sparring.

Flynch if that is your kick, i just have to say

"Boards don't hit back"
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#426236 - 03/31/10 05:51 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: trevek]
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OMG are you serious...they asked you to hiss instead of kihap? That's super picky.

Following the class rituals that's okay. But your kihap should be something that comes from within and it's usually unique. Usually people put their own comfortable spin on it. It's like a private trade mark.

Did you really have the nerve to say that to the instructor?
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#426237 - 03/31/10 06:00 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: TeK9]
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Originally Posted By: TeK9
OMG are you serious...they asked you to hiss instead of kihap? That's super picky.


Yep, the senior instructor took me aside and said (in Polish), "In TKD, it isn't 'huuuah!' it's 'tssss'." The thing was, all the kids were giggling. I'd been training in non-ITF clubs and WTF clubs, so this was new to me.

Originally Posted By: TeK9
Following the class rituals that's okay. But your kihap should be something that comes from within and it's usually unique. Usually people put their own comfortable spin on it. It's like a private trade mark.

Did you really have the nerve to say that to the instructor?


Well, I was a guest, so I didn't really think it was polite to argue (and I couldn't speak any Polish at the time, anyway).
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#426239 - 03/31/10 06:55 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: trevek]
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A master said we should shout, "Ai yah!" And get the "Ai" before the "yah". smile

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#426243 - 03/31/10 08:37 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: TaekwonDoFan]
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Originally Posted By: TaekwonDoFan
Absolutely. I have always said we should use military means to liberate the North. But no master is going to side with North Korea these days, so, in that sense, international politics have nothing to do with the fragmentation of ITF TKD.

I couldn't disagree more. International politics have more to do with the ITF fragmentation than probably any other factor. Gen Choi used TKD & the ITF to further his political agenda. This is what was a major factor in the breaking up of the ITF. The inter-Korean politics is also a big factor with the ITF & WTF issues as well. Very complicated situation, but it is most definately international politics that has played such a role for far too long in TKD

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#426246 - 04/01/10 12:56 AM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: TeK9]
flynch Offline
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Registered: 09/04/07
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Originally Posted By: TeK9
flynch

Was that your foot that broke those 3 boards?

This thread has totally turned into one of those karate threads were they discuss forms. And all because of the sign wave? How about discuss how you put that sign wave to use in sparring. If it can be. At least if it can be done the same way its done in the patterns.

This is something that never happens in Olympic style schools since the training is focused on being functional for sparring.

Flynch if that is your kick, i just have to say

"Boards don't hit back"


Yes but it was 4 boards and sometimes the fourth boad ricochets and then you have to dodge out of the way...lol

No you can't/don't use sine wave in sparring thats the point of the discussion. The sparring patterns are taught as an addition and in a way address this issue.

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#426247 - 04/01/10 12:59 AM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: TeK9]
flynch Offline
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We are taught not to make noise and to disguise our breath.

No hisses and no Kiaps

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#426252 - 04/01/10 03:08 AM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: flynch]
trevek Offline
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Originally Posted By: flynch
We are taught not to make noise and to disguise our breath.

No hisses and no Kiaps


Has that always been the case? I mean, even in Japanese karate, they have the kia. WTF dojangs resound with the sound of kihapping and the TAGB used to use them at the end of the tul (whereas ITF say the name of the tul).
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#426267 - 04/01/10 05:29 PM Re: Alex Gilles interviews GM CK Choi [Re: trevek]
flynch Offline
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Registered: 09/04/07
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No I think it is a GM CK Choi thing only. His theory is more like you train like you fight. So when you do patterns or any techniques you should breath out on each technique but not be obvious about it. You will breath out through your nose.

He thinks that in fighting having uncontrolled breathing its a tell tail sign that somebody is tired and you would just be giving a smart fighter an additional piece of info to use against you.

If you walk around brething in and out with an obvious noise somebody could more easily time and position thier strike while your breathing in and wind you. He says that is his personnal experience from all his years fighting both in sport and on the street while being a bouncer.

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