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#313459 - 01/12/07 05:59 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ads]
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Hello Ads:


<<I dont mean to sound flipant

Taught differently, given a different basic experience dissecting them, other possibilities exist

<<Its not that they're forgotten secrets, more like knowledge that has remained untaught until it finally becomes unknown

There are endless avenues you can explore, given a basic context.. whether that be the structure, the mechanics, the mental compotent, the breathing aspects, any one of which you can spend an insane amount of time exploring, studying. We share a basic method, if you get all of them simultainously on day one, overwhelmed-unskilled & insanity follows.

I like your got lost hypothesis... makes wonderful sense to me. Disagree with eliminating the ready position, it too specifically has a functional self defense technique within it...

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#313460 - 01/13/07 08:20 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ronin1966]
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I wasnt suggesting that the ready position is eliminated. I was simply trying to show that if the hands were to start relaxed by your sides, the ready position would more commonly be seen as a technique. Of course, it also helps to mentally prepare you for the pattern which is going to be performed.

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#313461 - 01/13/07 12:56 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ads]
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Pushed a few buttons heh? First, Student, Im not always right man. And that thread is AMAZINGLY still going.

I like to explore things as well. All aspects of my training really. However, this formality doesnt exist in my training anymore. Since that is the case I dont find myself in the sort of formal positions you might see a kung Fu artist use, or a karateka or Aikidoka. With the exception of hands by my side, because hey, I do walk. If I was able to see a viable application from that situation perhaps I would explore it further, though Ive never had an altercation start in that fashion.
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#313462 - 01/20/07 10:06 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Chen Zen]
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lol, from time to time you say the right things chen, not the end of the world tho.

and i hope you dont go looking for altercations for test runs,lol.
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#313463 - 01/20/07 05:29 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: student_of_life]
Chen Zen Offline
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I dont look for them, but I dont run either. Im always ready for my next test.
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#313464 - 01/20/07 10:25 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Chen Zen]
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cheers to that.

well so long as you havent given up test's along with every thing else,lol. can't stop the typing hand some times, lol.

so if i got this right here chen, you train largely on your own and therefore have droped everything you feel is useless in favor of training you have coustimized to your own goals?
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#313465 - 01/20/07 10:29 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: student_of_life]
Chen Zen Offline
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I wouldnt say largely on my own, but largely under my own direction. I do train with other Martial Artists of various backgrounds. I learn things then apply that which I feel is suitable for me. So to answer your question, yes.
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#313466 - 01/20/07 10:51 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Chen Zen]
student_of_life Offline
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sounds good,

i mean, in a way thats how any martial art started. peeple got together and used their own expirences and ideas to form some group decision and poof, style. then politics.
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#313467 - 01/20/07 10:53 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: student_of_life]
Chen Zen Offline
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Yeah, Im trying to avoid the "Poof". There isnt really one way or style of how I do things, how I might do things and Im definately not into politics. My moderator status here is about as political as I get.
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#313468 - 01/20/07 11:52 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Chen Zen]
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i can definatly sympathsize with wanting to stay away from the politics. its like a damn infection under the fake face of people who will stab your ass in the back for not inviting them to your dojo for a seminar.

more power to you, i wish i had the resources to break away from orginaziations, it seems like there are a few people killing the art i love and changing into somehting that turns my stomach.

yours in life
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