I suppose no one here realizes the difference anymore between media games about grappling and the real thing...or else this thread would be moved to a different forum.

harlan, why must you be such a tremendous [censored] at all times. Seriously, just go away.

boo hoo....lol!

The game is still relevant to grappling. Anyway anyone got a submission on Expert yet? It seems impossible, Chuck has super human submission defence which is the only thing I dislike about this game. I can submit Shogun with Chuck who is supposed to be a better grappler..

found some 411 on the create-your-own-fighter - sounds fun:

-Personal Details: name and nickname, hometown, fighting location and age (age has no impact on stamina/strength)
-Aesthetics: height and weight in proportion, skin tone, hair type, head and brow size, eyes and nose, cheeks and mouth, tattoos, fight clothing style (including brands as you unlock in career mode)
-Fighting Style: One Standing/Striking style (boxing, kickboxing or Muay Thai), One Ground style (wrestling, BJJ or Judo)

POINTS: You are given a limited amount of “skill points,” that can be spread out through many different fight styles to give your fighter more dimension. No player can be created with maximized ratings for every category. Using all your “skill points” on your fighters striking will detriment his ground game. You'll also get points to allocate to your strength, speed, and cardio performance.

TRAINERS: Choose from two boot-camp trainers. Mike offers you a five-point bonus to your standing game, whereas Antoine will improve your ground game by the same amount.

And you have absolutely no basis to whine, 'you don't do XXX, so you can't talk about it.' In case you have become completely blinded...half the BS that occurred was because certain bigmouth know it alls, who didn't even DO karate, were constantly in the karate and kata forums.

didn't hear you complaining about your friends doing it then, so don't be such a hypocrite.

Harlan, you have sidelined this thread; go away. And for the record, I've never done Karate so I don't visit that forum so have no clue what transpired nor do I care. Take a hint, you are not wanted here! You want to do your sobbing, whining, bickering and beyotch fest; do it in your own life instead of using this for an escape. If you can find happiness in your real life perhaps you can find it here as well. Until then you are destroying more bridges.

And I am glad I do have friends here; can you say the same?


My apology to the people of the Grappling/MMA Forum for harlan's outbursts and my retaliations.

Back on topic of this thread; gave it a go tonight on Advanced and out of perhaps 12 fights I only won once against Chuck as Rua. And I did that by knock out as I could not finish him on the ground. Submission after submission and still couldn't put him away even when I brutalized his legs for two full rounds.

This is going to be a tough game and a huge learning curve.

what is really impressing me as I play, especially in regards to the stand up clinch aspect, is how strikes are used to cause reaction in your oponent, from which you can then captitalise - what is very clear, is that the developers have spent a great deal of time with skilled/knowledgable MMAers/coaches, and have broken down the principles/concepts behind every range inherent to the sport. Quite often the gameplay, when your character dominates, looks remarkably like a Couture or Rutten instructional clip on youtube.

Not saying that the game has any training application per se, but on this evidence, I dont think anything that demonstrates the principles and possibilities of an art can do any harm.

Or maybe I am just humouring Harlan's query in regards to this threads placement?

Virtual MMA may be as close as any grapplers on here get to doing kata