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#417370 - 03/21/09 02:07 AM What do you think of this school?
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Hey everyone, I am looking to start martial arts up again, and jeet kune do has been on my eye for some time now. I am aware that it is not a style and so everyone's expression of it will be different. I am also aware of many places who claim to be jkd schools, but are in fact not, and may not even tech practical techniques.

My question, to anyone ans as many as possible would be, what do you think of the below school. Is it jkd or not? Could it be a McDojo? Does it look effective? I know that I will have to check it out myself, and there's only so much you can tell from the website, but let me know what you think.

Thanks

jkdama.com

My question, to anyone ans as many as possible would be, what do you think of the below school. Is it jkd or not? Could it be a McDojo? Does it look effective? I know that I will have to check it out myself, and there's only so much you can tell from the website, but let me know what you think.

Thanks

jkdama.com
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#417371 - 03/21/09 10:38 AM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Shadowx]
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The options on the poll aren't adequate. "Real" JKD....lets just say, it's JKD. I hate politics. JKD like everything else, is either trained with aliveness or it isn't. That should be the only criterion that you use to judge whether or not you want to train there. And there's no way of knowing that until you go there to observe or (even better) participate in a trial.

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#417372 - 03/21/09 06:44 PM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: JKogas]
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Maybe I'm "Old School" but if you cannot trace your lineage back to Bruce, Dan, or Taky, you cannot promote yorself as JKD.

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#417373 - 03/22/09 09:31 AM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Kentao5]
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Kentao5


Lineage....I might agree with, if we're talking about "Jun Fan". JKD (truth in combat), well that might be another story.

I think of JKD as a personal quest with specific "guidelines". Insofar as one is adhering to those guidelines, I'm wondering if lineage matters at all?

But perhaps the question there is, if truth in combat is the end-all, be-all (which I believe it is), then why would lineage matter?

I merely pose the question to spur discussion, not to say that you're right or wrong.

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#417374 - 03/22/09 09:50 AM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Kentao5]
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Quote:

Maybe I'm "Old School" but if you cannot trace your lineage back to Bruce, Dan, or Taky, you cannot promote yorself as JKD.




An interesting philosophical question! Does JKD have a lineage? JKogas makes a good point, if one considers that JKD is not really a style, per se.
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#417375 - 03/22/09 10:27 AM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: MattJ]
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I should probably note that although I believe that JKD is ultimately free for anyone to pursue, I can trace my lineage to Lee and Dan...by way of Hartsell and Vunak, so I still went through the "proper channels", lol

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#417376 - 03/23/09 10:47 AM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: MattJ]
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It is interesting, to be sure. I think though that John is pretty much spot on, saying that for Jun Fan you should be able to ultimately trace your lineage back to Bruce Lee. But JKD really is 'truth in combat', and Lee makes if pretty clear that it is NOT a style...so why would you have to trace a non-style back to Lee? I think of far more importance to authentic JKD, is the 'truth in combat' aspect that John speaks of, as well as functioning under the concepts that Bruce describes (with the most important ones being testing, daily decress/efficiency, individualality, not being concerned with any 'style'.)

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#417377 - 03/24/09 09:41 PM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Ames]
Kentao5 Offline
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I think JKD is meant to be a path to develop one's personal style with some required ingridients (economy of motion, good body mechanic, resistance, etc.) If possible getting the chance to interact with lineage instructors is key to understanding the training methods needed to find one's "truth in combat." I too have had the great oppurtunity to train with some of those people. Richard Bustillo, the late Larry Hartsell, Dan Inosanto, Marc Denny, and Mike Krivka (certified under Inosanto). Before meeting those guys, I felt I was following a JKD path but did not promote what I was teaching as JKD until I became certified in JKDU under Burton Richardson. What I do not like to see is JKD "Instructors" capatializing on the JKD name with examples that appear to be nothing more than demonstrations against a commited attack and no resistance from the supposed attacker. Just check out some of the JKD examples on You Tube.

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#417378 - 03/24/09 09:53 PM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Kentao5]
JKogas Offline
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Hey, are you Ken Eberle by any chance, or know him? I'm a big fan of Burton. If you're set up with him, you're obviously in very good hands!


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#417379 - 03/25/09 06:31 PM Re: What do you think of this school? [Re: Shadowx]
Neko456 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
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Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
It looks real enough they seem to try to fight range. Alot better then nothing.

But with the Demo its hard to tell his base alot of Karate classes or Gung fu classes look like that or more realistic then that now.

There were some things that I liked and some that I didn't like the straight line foot work and blast with bent arm strikes and punching into the oppoenets gloves without wiping out, I saw no elbows or head butts once he closed.

Wasted energy and not effienct but still probably potent.

Is it Bruce Lee (JKD Concept or Round Circle JKD) connected probably not his base seems to be other the Juan Fa Gung fu or Kali.

But that last combination looked good to me. Ending almost like the postition in the Tao of JKD but anybody can strike a pose standing still.


Edited by Neko456 (03/25/09 06:33 PM)

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