Quote:

---

I saw it as fun. Chucky for Pres of Texas? c'mon..Who would take the seriously? hhmmm

---

Quote:

---

They are not FOR anything that might actually make peoples lives better. The only thing way conservatives have ever succeeded in winning a mass base is by appealing to bigotry, fear, and superstition.

---

Quote:

---

Obama: "All across the country, there are people who work hard and meet their responsibilities every day, without the benefit of government bailouts or multimillion-dollar bonuses. And all they ask is that everyone, from Main Street to Wall Street to Washington, play by the same rules."

"This isn't just a matter of dollars and cents," he added. "It's about our fundamental values."

Quote:

---

And why does bringing politics into a thread automatically dirty or downgrade it? I thought we aspired to live in a democratic society--what kind of democracy declares political discussions off limits? If we do that, we might as well live in a dictatorship.

---

Quote:

---

Folks, here is long awaited Off-topic forum. Please be aware that all the same rules from the other forums apply.
This means:

* no religion
* no politics
* no racism/sexism
* no trolling

---

Quote:

---

I do not think the idea of someone like Chuck Norris running for president is far fetched at all. Someone on this thread already mentioned Arnold Schwarzenegger. To his name I would add Jesse Ventura and Mike Huckabee, among others.

---

Quote:

---

Granted, Chuck's chances today might not be as great as in the recent past. While the God, Guts, and Guns crowd is still a big demographic, their political heydey seems to have past. This is not surprising. With the economy in free fall, people are less apt to perk up their ears when some right-wing crackpot starts yelling, "Look out--queers!"

---

That's not a fair assertion there bud. You are painting with an awful broad stroke.
Guns are a second amendment right despite what the left wants. Hitler took away the guns first too. Take guns out of the picture and you can control the population. The ball is already rolling wit the current government.

Queers? Who said anything about homosexuality? I don't agree with homosexuality because I follow the Bible. The Bible also teaches LOVE and forgiveness. Sin is sin and homosexuality is a sin, hate is a sin as well. Those who hate in the name of the 'right' or christianity are not christians noe are they right.

Quote:

---

Still, right-wingers have gone far by pandering to fear, hate and ignornace and I don't expect them to stop now. After all, what else have they got?

Quote:

---

I just want my rights guranteed by the constitution. Hate and ignorance has never been a part of MY agenda and it's certainly not a part of Chuck Norriss'.

Quote:

---

Their economic policies been a disaster--the US now has the smallest middle class of any developed country. Their foreign policy has landed us in not one but two quagmires.

---

I can't speak for anyone's economic policies. Blame is thrown all over on that one.

Quote:

---

They are not FOR anything that might actually make peoples lives better. The only thing way conservatives have ever succeeded in winning a mass base is by appealing to bigotry, fear, and superstition.

---

That is completely untrue. Conservatives stand for morals and values. We value the unborn, families, and everyone's right to believe what they want as long as it doesn't infringe another's rights.

I'm not that involved in politics until I see my rights being violated or Gods laws being trampled. I have rest in knowing HE is in control.

Quote:

---

BWAHAHAHA!! I called this when I moved it from the Martial Talk forum- I knew it would all get heavy.

---

Troublemaker!!

Quote:

---

Look, most importantly, Texas will not set itself up as a country within a country (like the Vatican but with chewing tobacco), because it simply does not have the resources or power to operate autonomously. The new currency would have no leverage and the trade agreements necessary would just cripple the insurgency in its infancy.

---

Quote:

---

That being said, and discounting the political hats involved, the situation does make one evaluate how far government and constitution have parted company.

---

Quote:

---

Now I know the idea is that anyone can run for government- but that is just it, an idea.
The reality is that you need a lot of money,not a lot of good ideas, to get in power. Its all spin and showbiz, not substance.

---

Quote:

---

The very irony is that the USA today have become what they sought to free themselves from. Britain was a land where the privelidged held sway over the massess, who served their interest in a quest for global influence and wealth, and now the USA have inherited that mantle.

---

Quote:

---

When they put an expenditure cap on election campaigns, and they set up a neutral fund that can be allocated to candidates from lower classes, who have ideas of merit, and when they spend more money on home issues than strategic involvement in far away lands, you can tell me I am wrong.

---

Quote:

---

Hell, I would settle for them dealing with Mugabe with the same fervour that they did Saddam. Of course, they have yet to find oil in Zimbabwe, so he is safe.

God I am in a grouchy mood!? note to self: must hit things tomorrow.

---

What? I have to hit things EVERYDAY!!!

Quote:

---

The current administration with its 'rockstar' status is proof of that

---

Quote:

---

And that's exactly what we DON'T need. Socialism is not a free America.

---

Quote:

---

Now I know the idea is that anyone can run for government- but that is just it, an idea.

---

Quote:

---

And the last President was what? Pot/Kettle.

---

The latter excuses the present?

Quote:

---

OK and how do you equate that with Socialism exactly? The current system allows those with power, money and influence, to gain more power, money and influence. Eventually the number of haves vs. the have nots will be so small, the people will finally revolt...it's happen 1000's of times.

---

Quote:

---

Socialism has a role, the military is the largest socialist organization in history, are you against the military? How about you local fireman, he is by definition part of a socialist organization.

---

Quote:

---

It's the one mindedness of the politics that is absurd and unworkable, I said earlier, be specific, don't use slogans.

---

I like slogans and I'll use them as I please, thanks!

Quote:

---

Cord mentioned having a neutral pool of money, so everyone with ideas has a shot. You agreed. That's socialism! And that's bad socialism by the way. Someone's ability accumulate funding should not be held against them. There need to be a solution but removing money in a market driven society is not it

---

Quote:

---

Actually that's not quite accurate, if you are willing to start small, and work you way up (like a real profession) anyone can run for government and have. They just need to make friends along the way, and therein lies the rub.

---

Take that up with Cord, he said that.

No matter what. I hope and pray that this country will get on the right track, morally, politically, and economically. I believe the latter follow the former.