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#415686 - 02/09/09 09:16 AM New routine
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Starting to put together a new workout routine and figured some of you guys may know a little more than me. So here we go.

Goals- increase cardiovascular fitness as well as strength gains. Aesthetic improvements will be appreciated, but merely a by-product and not focused on.

Schedule-
I work Mon-Fri. Usually do 10-15 minutes on recumbent bike before work every morning. Workout sessions to be done after work Mon, Wed, and Fri. Sat-Sun rest days, but possibility of Sat sessions.

Possible exercises and current lifting range (not all inclusive or exclusive to new routine)-
*pullup- 4x5-7
*dips- 4x7-10
*hanging leg raise- unsure
squat- 4x10 with 120lb sandbag, possibly making heavier bags
pushup- unsure, never really done to failure or max
*farmer's walk- equipment in building stage, will be a week or so
overhead press/push press- op unsure, pp 4x6 85lbs (done in supersets with pullups and dips before, probably more if done alone)
deadlift- 4x8 145lbs (max weight available for barbell)
lunge- unsure
exercise bike and wavemaster to do HIIT and regular cardio on

*-preferred to have in new routine

Equipment-
50lb sandbag
70lb sandbag
10lb medicine ball
power tower (pullup, dip, roman chair)
20lb barbell with 125lb in plates to add on
farmer's walk- getting ammo cans and weight to put inside (not ready yet)
recumbent exercise bicycle
wavemaster punching bag

no gym membership, prefer to keep it that way


Thoughts and recommendations accepted along with the occasional smart-ass remark.
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#415687 - 02/09/09 09:30 AM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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Farmer's walk is a great exercise. I have just started getting into those, as they minimize irritaton to my shoulders and elbows. Can't go wrong with pullups/dips, either.
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#415688 - 02/09/09 10:44 AM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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All looks good- with your sandbag squats, a nice variation, that really emphasises the 'sit back' motion, is to do alternate shoulder reps, starting in the bottom position, with the bag resting upright on the knees, you put your left shoulder into the balance point, and stand upright with it. You then reverse the motion till the bag is resting on your knees, and you then shoulder the balance point on your right and stand up. Keep alternating as the set progresses. The manual manipulation and functional core work from this is phenomenal.

If you were to do 8 supersets of this, combining it with Dips and chins- that would be a complete workout.

Sets 1,3,5,7: alternating shoulder squats super set with Pull ups

Sets 2,4,6,8: superset with dips.

Now thats a good workout- gonna do this myself tomorrow with my beer keg
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#415689 - 02/09/09 11:02 PM Re: New routine [Re: Cord]
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Cord, you suck! Why is it whenever you give me a new workout to do I do it and then I am sore? And why haven't I learned yet?

Seriously, that was a hell of a workout, quite enjoyable. I was able to do 6 supersets, 3 each of pull ups and dips. The first three sub-sets of squats were with the 70# bag, the last three with the 50# bag because I didn't want to die. A little awkward with the bags at first, but I got into a groove. Tried not to use my hands as much, but the bags were hard to balance.

Felt a lot more work done in my pecs today, whether from the squats or the dips. The dips I adjusted last time to feel a lot better. I had gone with my upper arms past horizontal previously and it caused pain in my collarbone. Not going past horizontal I felt no pain at all, even when I felt very slight tinges while shouldering the bag in the squats.

I think that this will be a staple workout for me for a while. I like it.

I've been thinking of getting a keg to do some lifting work with, do you like yours, Cord?
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#415690 - 02/09/09 11:10 PM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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With one of my workouts set, how about this for a second on Wednesdays-

lunges
pushups
hanging leg raises
farmer's walk

Will the hanging leg raises wear on my forearms too much to get good work from the farmer's walks? If so I could do them from the roman chair position like I usually do (I balance on my elbows, back not touching the pad). I also want to be sure I'm working as much of the full body as I can during the 2 sessions per week.


For my third of the week I was going to do HIIT on the wavemaster or exercise bike. That would be on Friday night or sometime Saturday, unless that should take the place of my usual biking on Friday morning. Again, this is all with doing light pedaling on the bike M-F mornings.
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#415691 - 02/09/09 11:11 PM Re: New routine [Re: MattJ]
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Quote:

Farmer's walk is a great exercise. I have just started getting into those, as they minimize irritaton to my shoulders and elbows. Can't go wrong with pullups/dips, either.




What weights/distance do you do them, Matt?
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#415692 - 02/10/09 03:47 AM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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lunges
pushups
hanging leg raises
farmer's walk




You can certainly do roman chair leg raises if you wish, but the other alternative is to tweek things to this:

overhead sandbag Lunges
Hanging leg raises
Push ups
Farmers Walk

This would give strategic relief to your grip whilst still doing max intensity versions of all exercises.

On the shouldering squats- dont worry too much about having to grab the bag and 'muscleing' it up- thats a good thing- you just have to make sure that your shoulder is positioned so the bag balances naturaly on the shoulder at the top of the squat- dont want to be pulled forward or backward too much.



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For my third of the week I was going to do HIIT on the wavemaster or exercise bike.




Tabatas session on the bag would be great
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#415693 - 02/10/09 07:20 AM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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What weights/distance do you do them, Matt?




Nothing great. About 60lbs (27.3kg) each hand, for about 100 ft (33m), 4 sets with 1 minute jump rope in between.
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#415694 - 02/10/09 04:08 PM Re: New routine [Re: MattJ]
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Great workouts mate. If you still want to do leg raises, just do them as you do pullups, kind of like a v-up. After a while, you can change this to a sort of window wiper movement. This can help develop that twisting strength thats so important for MA. It can be difficult to get it right, but its a cracker if you get the hang of it.
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#415695 - 02/11/09 04:37 AM Re: New routine [Re: JoelM]
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The dips I adjusted last time to feel a lot better. I had gone with my upper arms past horizontal previously and it caused pain in my collarbone.




Good adjustment. In stopping parallel, or just past parallel, as opposed to dropping all the way through, you actually work the pecs harder, as they have to engage to stop your descent. It also negates stretch reflex, meaning the contraction is not assisted in any way.

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I've been thinking of getting a keg to do some lifting work with, do you like yours, Cord?




oh yes indeed I do If you get one, make sure it has been de-pressurised and that you can fill it easily and just cork it.

Mine is still pressurised, and contains about 60 litres of out of date strongbow cider.

its not too much of a problem, but every now and then I have to vent the gas pressure so it doesnt turn into a huge shrapnel bomb
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