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#414512 - 02/22/09 10:30 AM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: karl314285]
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Note, question to all at asterisks please reply.
I think the posts on holding breath (from possible improvement or lack thereof of physiologic increase of lung capacity/oxygen exchange at the alveolar level to the possible/definitive dangers esp without a very experienced Teacher) have all been straight on target.
***To Joe7987 and any interested to comment. I love Qi Gong now that I've experienced this internal energy/healing style in the presence of Master Wei Lun Huang ( the variety and intensity w/ explanation of proper breathing and visualization of energy movement, so like Yoga (in movement one is still and in stillness exists movement). Gurudev Amrit is less and less available personally as he prepares to enter a final seclusion of meditation in preparation for "that journey from which no man hath returned".
*** Is just me?? I can only seem to truly enjoy and feel benefit from Qi Gong practice if Master Huang is physically present (its not just that trying to do Incense Chi Kung is so complex,and it is full) and as in the practice of Zen Buddhism I feel a total difference alone vs. having been part of the Sangha at Mountian and Rivers order in the catskills. I just wonder if I have not practiced enough and like a child need the Parent and Family??? Long time w/ Gurudev and solitary practice was what I wanted. any thoughts????
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#414513 - 02/22/09 10:14 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: karl314285]
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OK, maybe my last post didnt deserve response.
Chi Kung_ In the variety of chi kung w/ Master Huang I have not encountered holding the breath unless one counts either the obligatory exaggerated swallowing of saliva collected during practice (tip of tongue to palate) or the momentary hold at peak inspiration and expiration during preparation for chi kung (and same prep prior to Ba Gua) where visualization of movement of energy is raising and lowering through energy channels and looking within for imbalances(Inhale palms rise up,exhale as palms face down,inhale and expand, exhale and compress)...otherwise breathing was to be in through nostrils out through mouth, and even with a static pose like (Love these names) "Monkey awaits Peach" or end of lion chi kung ("lion shakes his mane") where the simple direction to keep hands in lion claw tight and "just relax and shake" if you dont breath like a bellows you wont last to the next.
Yoga_ Yoga Pranayama practice begins without breath hold, as student learns to move energy through the energy channels in the spine and using nostril closing balance the Ida and Pingale (Yn/and yang) channels of spine (a familiar autonomic function one has probably already noticed, the cycle of one nostril dominant (more open) the other passive less open or even clogged. Breath holding is practiced w/ energy locks (Physical restrictions on primary areas of body where energy is lost) to build internal energy in preparation to awaken kundalini shakti and begin to raise to the crown chakra, Not unlike chi kung and the jade nectar mentioned above. Yoginda back to time immemorial have cautioned the unwary (read, no teacher, not ready, not practicing ridding excess energy after practice, abusing the accumulated energy) that headaches, illness, insanity and even death are possible.
Buddhism_ Other than development of internal energy, control of the breath is the first control of a generally autonomic function, control of the breath requires focus, focus is required for meditation and the transformation of the Mind. This part is outrageous, His Holiness the Dalai Lama has written that meditation can begin when one can focus "vividly and continuously for Four hours,stability can be said to be achieved" paraphrase from "How to Practice" HH the 14th Dalai Lama pg127, there is no mention of breath holding.
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