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#414502 - 01/16/09 06:40 PM Effects of Holding Breath?
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Just out of curiosity's sake.... What are the effects of holding your breath? Are they negative? Does it hurt your respiratory system? Does it build your respiratory system?

I'm not talking about holding breath while working out... I already know that's a no no.

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#414503 - 01/16/09 09:55 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Joe7987]
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the only sport where we held our breath was swimming. Usually you would try and go a full length of the pool, the idea being to train you to be more effcient in your motion to maximize speed, while minimizing no essential movement.

It probably helps you wind to some degree (body adapts) but not as well as good old fashion cardio is my guess.
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#414504 - 01/26/09 06:14 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Kimo2007]
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Holdng your breath consiously for training can have several desirable effects and provide learning possibilities. Holding your breath sub-consiously during training and life in general, increases tension and adds to cumulative stress, which degrades ones health.

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#414505 - 01/29/09 08:11 AM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Mark_Jakabcsin]
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One would presume that done correctly it helps to increase lung capacity, given that wind instrument players and singers (who effectively hold their breath) see substantial increases in lung capacity. Whether this is better achieved to taking regular deep breaths or by holding one's breath I have no idea.

When I was in year 12 we measured people's lung capacity during biology for something a bit different and related it to their size and the activities they performed. Swimmers and life savers seemed to have relatively high lung capacities. The (female) teacher who was a choir singer nearly matched one of the girls who was a real sporto and surf life saver. The top three were myself and two of my friends, I had 6.6 litres, my cyclist friend had 6.6 aswell and my (massive) martial artist friend had 6.8 (note this is Vital Capacity, not total lung capacity) Its also worth noting that I am not overly fit, yet I am quite athletic, ie I do a lot of activity, running, martial arts, etc but I'm still a bit over weight and drink and eat too much (you can see a picture of me in the weapons pictures thread in the weapons secion ). Whereas my mate the cyclist is real toned and the like, which leads me to believe that lung capacity is more directly related to how much you push your lungs and less how fit you are... Anyway getting off topic, lol.

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#414506 - 02/06/09 11:12 AM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Triddle]
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One would presume that done correctly it helps to increase lung capacity, given that wind instrument players and singers (who effectively hold their breath) see substantial increases in lung capacity.




Capacity does not equate with efficiency. You need to stimulate and increase the surface area of the alveoli to improve oxygen absorption and efficiency.

A good example at the moment is BJ Penn, who spent a lot of his pre-fight conditioning 'running rocks' under water. He was delighted with this as he described it as 'true anaerobic' exercise. Whilst this is true, it is not significantly beneficial on a physiological level. Hence he gassed in the face of an oponent who relied on more scientific methods of training.
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#414507 - 02/18/09 08:32 AM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Cord]
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End of class Oshima Sensei would have us go through exertional stuff and then line up in seiza and start kokyuho, always challenging us to regain breath under voluntary control (involved holding breath if one could not inhale or exhale slow enough to his clappers pace). Pranayama in yoga does not introduce breath retention (in combo w/ locks, chin and anus) till a more advanced stage. Both have the same goal, what is commonly considered an autonomic function is brought under mental control, breath being the easiest starting place...then heart rat, BP and so on. Effects of breath practice (Pranayama) esp retention w/o an Experienced Guru according to the tenants of yoga can be dangerous. Gurudev Amrit Desai has helped me along my path. Note books on Pranayama by Iengyar.
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#414508 - 02/19/09 09:28 AM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: karl314285]
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I have also been introduced to breath control/holding breath exercises (chi gung and also yoga - related but different techniques). There can be positive benefits with stamina, speed, coordination, focus etc.. I wouldn't experiment on my own with it (waste of time), you need a skilled teacher to get any benefit IMO. I've also heard it could be dangerous if not done right (maybe, but I never heard of anyone die from breathing exercises or even holding their breath).

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#414509 - 02/19/09 01:36 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: everyone]
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but I never heard of anyone die from breathing exercises or even holding their breath




You never heard of Elvis Presley!?
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#414510 - 02/19/09 02:36 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: Cord]
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What do you mean? Elvis Lives!

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#414511 - 02/20/09 12:06 PM Re: Effects of Holding Breath? [Re: everyone]
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Elvis died holding his breath to strain for a BM (breath hold and increased abdominal pressure is called the valsalva maneuver and is the first method by ER Docs to convert ventricular tachycardia, the valsalva stimulates the vagus nerve to slow heart rate) as his HR was already slow due to barbiturate use, he became bradycardic and died...on the Throne. Jim Morrison Lives, we hang out at times.
Qi Gong is an amazing thing, prior to Ba Gua, Master Huang would always spend 1-2 hrs as prep for internal work. Amazing how seemingly simple movements or postures w/ breath training will heat up the body.
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