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#414433 - 01/17/09 10:04 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Supremor]
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Trust me guys, I believe GSP's wrestling is superior to perhaps anyone else.

Of course, Sean Sherk's wrestling should have been superior to BJ's as well. The result was that, Penn's game plan was superior to Sherk's.

I think conditioning will play a huge factor in what happens here. GSP's conditioning is beyond question. Penn's always has been. What hasn't been in question regarding Penn, is his level of talent.

I believe that the edge here definitely belongs to GSP, don't get me wrong. But there are times when you have to take the dog. I'm doing so this time although I believe Penn will probably lose.

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#414434 - 01/17/09 10:07 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: JKogas]
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Cord -

I don't think BJ is going to get submitted. His jits is too good. Remember, he almost caught GSP in a gogoplata (shin choke), in the previous fight.

Quote:

Quote:

Each time GSP took BJ down, he didn't do a whole lot of damage.




Read the rules: Takedowns + Control = Points. A decision win is still a win.






*pauses to consider Bisping/Hamill fight*

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#414435 - 01/17/09 10:22 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: MattJ]
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*pauses to consider Bisping/Hamill fight*







Oh wait....is this fight taking place in Canada (or the US)??? These things matter

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#414436 - 01/21/09 04:09 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: JKogas]
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I guess not everyone likes playing the villain:





From: MMAjunkie.com

Trouble in paradise? B.J. Penn cuts short "UFC Primetime" taping

Despite solid ratings for Spike TV's first installment of the three-part "UFC Primetime: St. Pierre vs. Penn II" series, at least one participant was apparently unhappy with how he was portrayed in the piece.

A source close to the show on Tuesday told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) B.J. Penn recently shut down a taping and interview session for the series and no longer wants involved in the project.

Penn was apparently unhappy with how he was portrayed in last week's debut of the series, which hypes a Jan. 31 UFC 94 main event fight between the Hawaiian fighter and UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre.

Penn, the UFC's current lightweight title-holder, looks to become the first-ever UFC fighter to hold two belts simultaneously when he fights for St. Pierre's title at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

"Primetime," a nearly $2 million project that airs in 30-minute blocks on Wednesdays from Jan. 14-28, follows each fighter as he prepares for the fight.

During the Jan. 14 debut, Penn was sometimes portrayed as a fighter who didn't take his training too seriously a reputation that's long dogged the 30-year-old fighter.

In the latest taping segment for "Primetime," Penn cut short taping just eight minutes into an interview, the source said.

A message left with Penn's publicity representative wasn't immediately returned.

The second installment of "UFC Primetime" airs tonight at 10 p.m. EST/PST on Spike TV.

Last week's "Primetime" debut scored a scored a 0.73 household rating and had an average audience of 880,000 viewers during its initial run at 10 p.m. EST/PST. An immediate replay that aired at 10:30 p.m. EST/PST scored a 0.53 rating with 614,000 viewers.

It currently ranks as the highest-rated "UFC Countdown" show in UFC and Spike TV history.
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#414437 - 01/21/09 04:18 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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I honestly dont know why they try and make fighters in any fight-sport do the whole face/heel hype machine.

We all know that, in the main, after the fight its all 'it was all for the hype, we respect eachother really etc etc', so repeating the same old 'trick' is f*cking tiring- and insulting.

I would prefer a bit of honesty and dignity. Lets not forget that Ali let himself down badly by taking his hype too far with Frazier. To this day, the effect on Joe and his family at the time has meant that he has never forgiven Ali, and I understand that.

The whole thing about fight-sport is that the fight is the truth- thats the whole point, why demean in with all the
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#414438 - 01/21/09 05:49 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Cord]
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I enjoyed the show and have it set to record again today. Penn does play the heel but he does that himself if you watch it. Probably also didn't like people knowing he was taking 5 days off from his training to putz around.

If anything I hope this kicks him in the pants to train harder and when it comes to the actual fight, then it will be a good fight.

Dana is all about promoting and he has to. If he did not promote the UFC like he is doing then he would not be where he is today and the UFC would have closed down. If you have ever seen the documentary of the UFC they were going to shut down and took one more kick at the cat with the Ultimate Fighter show. It did so well now they have money to boot and realize they must continue to promote this to the people because they want more then just the MMA people. They took pages from the WWE for sure as this is prime pro wrestling tactics; and this Primetime was bang on with this.

We are in a world of people that love reality shows and the UFC has capitalized on it and will continue to do so as long as that gravy train is flowing. They had me before this all transpired as have always been a MMA fan but have peaked my interest more because I do like many reality based shows.

Will be watching tonight after I work out.
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#414439 - 01/21/09 10:01 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Dereck]
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I enjoyed the show and have it set to record again today. Penn does play the heel but he does that himself if you watch it. Probably also didn't like people knowing he was taking 5 days off from his training to putz around.




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#414440 - 01/22/09 08:57 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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Another good episode and a look into the fighters.
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#414441 - 01/23/09 01:56 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Cord]
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Cord wrote - I would prefer a bit of honesty and dignity. Lets not forget that Ali let himself down badly by taking his hype too far with Frazier. To this day, the effect on Joe and his family at the time has meant that he has never forgiven Ali, and I understand that.

The whole thing about fight-sport is that the fight is the truth- thats the whole point, why demean in with all the


456 - Money talks and BS walks but in this case BS makes more money all 3 Ali vs Fraizer fights were money makers and crowd pleasers. If B.J. Penn can get the hype to that point and they pull in the near same type money. This will be a great gain & fight. I think GSP will win he has improved in phases of the game B.J. has too. But this time I don't think that B.j's stand up will out gun GSP's because in almost every defeat GSP has come back avenge it, and he beat BJ last time. The only thing I fear is BJ's guard and his finishing skills once hurt against GSP. Against me I just fear and respect them both .
I like them both and hope both good luck.

This is going to be a great fight BJ may have an advantage in punching power but he is coming up in weight. We will see.

The whole card looks good but this main event is the Best of the Best.


Edited by Neko456 (01/23/09 02:03 PM)
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#414442 - 01/24/09 06:21 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Neko456]
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im thinking GSP by decision or TKO from ground and pound.

however i never count BJ out
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