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#414423 - 01/16/09 02:52 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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GSP all the way he is on are roll right now and I think is speed/conditioning will be too much for BJ to handle.

I hope Machida wins I like how he can take any fighter out of there game. But I have to admit I would like him to look to finish more often he can be boring. I am really excited for this match cause I want to see if someone will finally take the fight to Lyoto instead of playing his game.

Nate vs. Clay is going to be epic both fighters have been awesome lately. If Nate wins he should be in the top of the 155ers.

I will be away at a Karate tournament during this fight so I am going to have to find a sports bar or something to watch it. I am not happy about that at all.

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#414424 - 01/16/09 03:46 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: bo-ken]
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Has anyone been watching UFC Primetime? It is a week by week update on Penn's and GSP's training. It was on Wednesday for a half an hour and will be on the up and coming Wednesday and then the Wednesday the week of the fight.

This episode Penn I felt was all talk. Had nothing but bad things to say about GSP, GSP said nothing bad. Showed GSP working hard and show a little of Penn working out and now Penn is taking a 5 day break. Dana wasn't happy and called but Penn wouldn't answer his phone so Dana ended up speaking to Penn's brother who lied for him.

They really want you to buy into this fight and are building this more then any other. Penn feels he is going to kill GSP and actually said that and not just funny like. He said it a few time and then said "I'm really going to kill you". Then said that GSP was quitter and that is how he was going to beat him. GSP did not take that too well because he's never quit anything.

I hope Penn gets beat so bad that up and quits or cannot fight anymore and has to give up the Lighweight Title. Penn is an a$$, has been an a$$ and will always be an a$$.
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#414425 - 01/16/09 05:12 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Dereck]
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I haven't seen it, but it has a real "Good guy vs Bad guy" feel to it, almost too much if you know what I mean.
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#414426 - 01/16/09 05:24 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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If BJ is in shape, I will go with him. He's got the skills. Stand-up, takedown defense, ground game - all excellent.

Conditioning...the bugaboo.


-John

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#414427 - 01/16/09 05:48 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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Quote:

I haven't seen it, but it has a real "Good guy vs Bad guy" feel to it, almost too much if you know what I mean.




Yeah, exactly. BJ is being way too over-the-top for me to take that seriously. Like Frank Mir in TUF, I think BJ is playing it up a bit for the fans. Say it with me, kids:

RATINGS!

JKogas - I don't think there is anyone in MMA that has credible takedown defense against GSP. If he wants you down, you're going down.
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#414428 - 01/16/09 05:58 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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I don't know. This is one of those where I'd be happy with either one as the victor... I just want to see the fight. I really wanna lean towards BJ's side but I think it's just becuase of all the back story he's had in and out and back into the UFC. But, I'd have a hard time betting $$ against GSP these days. BJ did seem to come in better prepared the last time he fought and if he's built upon that??? Who knows? It could happen. I'd love to see BJ submit GSP in like round 3. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it went exaclty the opposite.

All in all, this should at least be a good show.
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#414429 - 01/16/09 06:15 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: MattJ]
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JKogas - I don't think there is anyone in MMA that has credible takedown defense against GSP. If he wants you down, you're going down.




Correct. Remember their last fight in the last 2 rounds; GSP took Penn down at will and dominated him and why he won the fight.

With GSP losing the belt once against Matt Serra I'm sure he doesn't want to go through that again. He will be tactical with Penn and pick him apart slowly and break him down knowing that by the end of round 2 Penn will not have much energy and then I'd be surprised if it went past round 4.

Even though I dislike Penn, and have since day one, I hope he comes prepared and it is a great fight.
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#414430 - 01/16/09 07:38 PM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Dereck]
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Each time GSP took BJ down, he didn't do a whole lot of damage.
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#414431 - 01/17/09 04:04 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Spade]
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Each time GSP took BJ down, he didn't do a whole lot of damage.




Read the rules: Takedowns + Control = Points. A decision win is still a win. I dont think it will come to that though, i think GSP by submission after Penn has gassed.

Matt wrote:
Quote:

JKogas - I don't think there is anyone in MMA that has credible takedown defense against GSP. If he wants you down, you're going down.




Yep. Remember Koscheck? - 'no way can he handle my wrestling- he trains wrestling, I am a wrestler...blah blah blah'

Spank. Spank. Spank.
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#414432 - 01/17/09 07:03 AM Re: UFC 94 Penn vs GSP [Re: Cord]
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I dont think it will come to that though, i think GSP by submission after Penn has gassed.




I think GSP will win, but not by submission- not against Penn. I don't think anyone in mma has even passed Penn's guard, so a submission seems unlikely. If GSP is smart, he will use his superior wrestling to keep Penn on his back immobile, while landing some ground and pound, nothing spectacular, but enough to control the fight and win the decision. If there is anywhere where GSP can end the fight early, it will be on the feet, where GSP's stand-up is becoming underrated. I don't think BJ has got anything to challenge St Pierre on the feet. GSP is too versatile in his striking, whereas Penn's seems to be confined to a good jab and a decent rear hand(I wasn't blown away by his beating of Sherk).

Watch for GSP to sit in Penn's guard for the first couple of rounds while neutralizing Penn's ground game a la Fedor-Nogueira. In the third or fourth round when Penn is gassing, KO for GSP.

Now, I've set myself up for a fall.

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