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#413483 - 01/06/09 03:53 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: screamingflea]
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'Flea, as you'll notice... some MAists have loads of tolerance for genders and persuasions, it's just each other they have little tolerance for!
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#413484 - 01/06/09 03:58 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: trevek]
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Heh ... just like every other group I know.

Ain't human nature grand?
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#413485 - 01/18/09 10:35 AM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: screamingflea]
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Am I the only person that is old fashioned enough to think that what you do in the bedroom is of no concern to anyone else.
I don't see the need to "come out" at all. To anyone. Ever.

I'm afraid that I see this as another example of a society that has become sex obsessed.

To the OP, do you think about whether to tell your classmates that you like broccoli but not carrots? No? Thought not. Or any of your other preferences in daily life?

Then why is it that you think that anyone would be interested in your bedroom preferences?

Just go and train.
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#413486 - 01/19/09 05:32 AM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: McSensei]
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Quote:

Am I the only person that is old fashioned enough to think that what you do in the bedroom is of no concern to anyone else.
I don't see the need to "come out" at all. To anyone. Ever.

I'm afraid that I see this as another example of a society that has become sex obsessed.

To the OP, do you think about whether to tell your classmates that you like broccoli but not carrots? No? Thought not. Or any of your other preferences in daily life?

Then why is it that you think that anyone would be interested in your bedroom preferences?

Just go and train.




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#413487 - 01/19/09 07:20 AM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: BrianS]
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You mean I'm the only one who gets thir wife to wear a Bruce Lee t-shirt to bed?
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#413488 - 01/19/09 10:41 AM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: McSensei]
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Quote:

do you think about whether to tell your classmates that you like broccoli but not carrots?




Well that would be a valid comparison if a large portion of the population felt that carrot eaters should not be allowed to be Boy Scout Troop leaders, or could fired from their jobs or kicked out of the Military if their Carrot eating became public.

The issue isn't sex, the issue is society active discrimination of a particular group of people based on an arbitrary reason.

You say, who cares what people do in their bedroom? Just train. The reality is a lot of people care, and because they care it becomes an issue, unlike the consumption of carrots.

The question is, when or do you make it known? Some people prefer to get it on the table so those who have an issue can be forthcoming or shut up, others prefer people to find out through the course of daily life if and when it comes up.

It is an issue, until it doesn't even occur to people to wonder, like if you prefer carrots or peas. (carrots and peas is better use of analogy then carrots or broccoli, just ask Forest, Forest Gump)
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#413489 - 01/19/09 12:44 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: Kimo2007]
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Kimo, you put that very eloquently. I thank you.

I've come a long way from living in any kind fear of discrimination or hate crimes (or patronizing PMs.) It's a matter of integrity. Can I be true to myself in spite of a potentially hostile climate? I have the courage for that, yes. But it only makes sense to figure out just how much courage I'll need in a given situation. That's what prompted my OP.
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#413490 - 01/19/09 04:23 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: screamingflea]
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I understand what McSensei means and, to a point, I agree with him. However, as Kimo says, it is not that simple.

Ideally it shouldn't matter but let's be honest, how many times has a male student felt awkward wrestling with a woman and brushing against or grabbing her breast? In the case of the OP, it is also a question of lifestyle and who she chooses to walk through town with her arm around (not just the bedroom). Part of 'Flea's OP was because of a social conversation outisde the club (in the real world).

If a new student joined a club and someone knew he was gay (or found out beyond the club) how many males would feel uncomfortable about wrestling with him and getting sweaty (or even showering with him)?

On the vegetable front... if someone had a preference for sprouts I'd certainly want to know... just so as not to be behind them in the line-up.


Edited by trevek (01/19/09 04:28 PM)
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#413491 - 01/19/09 07:50 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: trevek]
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I would not be comfortable training with a homosexual in an environment where we made physical contact. I would also have health concerns.
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#413492 - 01/19/09 09:22 PM Re: A question on MA culture [Re: BrianS]
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Brian, I'm sure your homophobic post will be deleted shortly. Mod, feel free to delete this one too.

In the meantime, I'd like to alert you to the fact that you have more chance contracting HIV than a Lesbian does.


Have a nice day,

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