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#413122 - 12/18/08 10:43 PM Bukai Pinan Sahdan
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Guys,
In this clip I demonstrate applications for Pinan Sahdan / Pyung Ahn Sahdan against a rabid wolverine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlUrW9UMR2k

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#413123 - 12/19/08 01:34 AM Re: Bukai Pinan Sahdan [Re: oldman]
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Do you work any of these apps in your kumite?
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#413124 - 12/19/08 08:45 AM Re: Bukai Pinan Sahdan [Re: medulanet]
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Some nice applications Oldman.

Some of the techniques where you block and chop on the inside of the attack look like they may encounter problems if the opponent throws a second straight strike.

It would be great if you could post the same applications with your partner resisting after feeding the initial attack.

Good work though!
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#413125 - 12/19/08 09:46 AM Re: Bunkai Pinan Sahdan [Re: medulanet]
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Med,
We do not really integrate those techniques in our sparring.The first clip is my son and I sparring. We do, do an improvisational drill that is sort of half way between one steps and sparring. You can see that in the second clip. A person attacks with a punch kick or grab and you just go from there. the clip is what I called a a "slow roll". You can add as much energy as the partners are comforable with. We also have full cage head gear which we use from time to time. When we do we allow shots to the head.

Sho,
I understand what you are saying about the second punch. One
variation could use the second knifehand "strike" to block or parry the second punch. One point I try to make for my guys is that in terms of exercise and "art" you want to work your whole range of motion. When it come to application things get shorter and tighter.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIzcoArd8KQ&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYsdU81WW0o&feature=channel_page

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#413126 - 12/20/08 01:36 AM Re: Bukai Pinan Sahdan [Re: oldman]
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"Pinan Sahdan" ?

is that available in a 2-door Coupe as well ?
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#413127 - 12/20/08 08:45 AM Re: Bunkai Pinan Sahdan [Re: oldman]
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Good stuff Oldman.

Have you considered applying the same techniques to the outside of the attacks instead of the inside?

In order to develop the kata applications to sparring all you need do is build a structured programme of drills.

Starting with the formal 1-step that you demonstrated, move on to informal continuous, a bit like the slow role, but working up to full speed and power, with uke trying to resist as best they can from the moment the technique is thrown.
The next thing is working with the variations the attacker throws so adjusting height or arc/angle of attack,
then work on flowing from one application to the next, so if after you block a straight punch he throws a hook, you flow straight into the hook defence from your kata.
Then drill the application by your attacker leading in with a combination and you have to find the point in the combination to apply the defence.
All of these should be done with as close to full speed and power as is possible emphasis on resisting the counters, gradually relaxing restrictions until you are free sparring. To further assist, look at each kata movement including the small parts of the movement and how these can be applied other attacks than the standard that you've visualised, and regularly work drills to practice these variations.

Train exclusively like this for a few months and you will be able to apply your kata to free sparring. A few years and you won't need anything other than your kata, or so Bill Burgar believes.
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#413128 - 12/20/08 02:21 PM Re: Bunkai Pinan Sahdan [Re: Shonuff]
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Quote:

Have you considered applying the same techniques to the outside of the attacks instead of the inside?





Yes we do that same technique to the outside and it work very nicely.

The progression you described sound very much like what we have been doing with the exception of incorporating it in to sparring. For the sake of the demos I like to keep the form so students can get the idea clearly. As they get the idea we loosen things up and start from a fighting stance or even have someone charge straight in. I appreciate your input. I don't think I have coveyed things as clearly as you did.

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#413129 - 12/20/08 02:26 PM Re: Bukai Pinan Sahdan [Re: Ed_Morris]
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That would be the Koup Mu Sahdan. The Koup Mu were built in korea.

And Merry Festivus to you to

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