Bill, the level of denial you are showing is staggering. I am not going to get into a Global Warming debate with you, since I already done so in the thread link I posted, which you clearly haven't read. Which is also typical.

I will also not get into GW Bush's legacy as a president - the American people have spoken clearly in that regard.

The deniers do not have a leg to stand on unless you can come up with a comparably large, peer-reviewed study that refutes the IPCC report. But there isn't one, so all you folks can do is make knee-jerk, emotional, finger-pointing outbursts like the ones above, without a shred of fact to go with them.

I do feel sorry for you sir.

Where is JohnL when you need him? I do believe his trademark statement could be put to good use here.

Holy Right Wing nut Jobs Batman!

Imagine how he is going to react when someone explains to him the US Military is a Socialist Organization!

MattJ. Your gullibility is really amazing but time will tell. Yes, the millitary is a socialist organization and from my experience with it I would rather that its socialist organization be kept in the millitary and not unleashed on civillians through restrictive government programs. And believe me when I say this, history will be far kinder to George Bush than the people of his time were. The new guy maybe not so much.
Bill

Damn...one mention of the word socialism or liberal usually sends these guys into a meltdown...guess I'll have to find my fun elsewhere today.

PS...The whole Global Warming thing...that debate has been over for a long time, at least among people who are entitled to an opinion, you might want to find a new cause to rant about....just a thought.

uhm...MattJ, are you trying to bash me because of my remark in that 'Obama' thread? Just trying to clarify. You mention "seitz, Christy,.." twice in regard to some right wing type entity. Maybe you're talking about something completely different? Dunno, please clear this up.

Thank you Cord.

Christy -

I was referring to John Christy, noted skeptic and minority viewpoint contributor to the IPCC report. Please check the link I posted earlier. I don't tolerate uninformed bullsh1t, but I don't hold grudges, either.

Kimo 2007 the real debate is just beginning. When I was growing up in the seventies it was the threat of global cooling. Try these sources for the debate that is over:

The Deniers, By Laurence Solomen which will give the names of scientists who doubt the hoax.
The Really Inconvenient Truth, by Iain Murray
Unstoppable Global Warming:Every 50,000 years, By Dennis Avery and S. Fred Singer.
Red Hot Lies By Christopher Horner( I heard him interviewed last week on Dennis Millers radio show)
And for a quick read on these subjects, The Politically Incorrect Guide on Global Warming, Which takes apart the IPCC report in one chapter.
As far as the overpopulation silliness goes, we can pack everyone on earth into the state of texas and have the same population density as New York city. If you'll notice as well, as societies become industrialized and wealthy the population starts to slow. You should read Mark Steyn's book America Alone, where he looks at the declining populations in the western industrial societies. I also have to say you are a bit of an elitist Cord for placing the judgement on how others make a living. Perhaps we should establish a committee to decide which lives are actually worth maintaing and then, if they fail to meet your judgement we could make them disapear. It never takes people on the overpopulated earth and global warming side of the argument very long to get to the lets get rid of large numbers of useless people so the enlightened people can live guilt free meaningful lives. If you notice, the guys on your side started the name calling first and you yourself have called for killing innocent people because they don't have intrinsic value. These are the ideas and thoughts I am talking about with the global warming and anti-population hoaxes. In each case they lead down the road of re-education camps and to killing people who do not think right. Shame on you Cord, even if you are a moderator.
Bill

Well Bill,

If you read my statement, I said "people who are entitled to an opinion". I can see simply by your reading and reaction to Cords post, that you are not one of those people. I mean you practically have him building gas chambers, and if you draw that conclusion from his post, then I am really not much interested in your viewpoint on anything.

I put people like you in the catagorie of people who deny the Holocaust...you just don't get a seat at the table.

Anyway, enough about this. This is a MA site, not a political site so this thread should be shut down shortly.