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#411572 - 11/13/08 06:37 PM Couture vs. Lesnar
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I REALLY hope Randy wins!

On paper the odds are stacked against him. He's 45 I think and will have a significant disadvantage to a bigger and stringer opponent. Lesnar actually has to cut weight to make 265lbs! What does Randy weigh 220? But, this is no ordinary human.Randy has beat the odds before when he completely dominated Silva and Gonzaga, not to mention a few big guys before them! I think Randy has the advantage of cage experience,wrestling superiority, and probably striking superiority.

So, we'll see, but I know who I'm rooting for.
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#411573 - 11/13/08 07:58 PM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: BrianS]
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Rooting for Randy all the way. But knowing in my heart that Brock is likely to win.

KICK HIS ASS RANDY!!!!!
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#411574 - 11/13/08 11:23 PM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: MattJ]
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I heard the winner has to take on Chen Zen!!
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#411575 - 11/13/08 11:23 PM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: MattJ]
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Brock is going to come out like he was fired from a cannon. That's how he does things. But my GOD, Couture is SO experienced. Not only that, but he's a top notch wrestler in his own right. I think Couture can hang on. If MIR can beat Lesnar, what are Couture's odds?

Couture also has a more well-rounded game now. Plus his clinch is like better than Lesnar's.

But....I wouldn't put any money on EITHER of these guys. I would just hate to see Lesnar as the face of modern mma.

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#411576 - 11/13/08 11:55 PM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: JKogas]
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I agree with John if Lesnar wins I don't want everyone to think that he is the man to beat. Randy is amazing but he hasn't fought in over a year and is 45. Lesnar's speed and power are his best weapons he is so fast and his takedowns are impossible to stop.

But Randy has better boxing and his clinch game is second to none. I am going to have my friends over and we are all just hoping for a good fight like always.

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#411577 - 11/14/08 01:20 AM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: bo-ken]
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Maybe I'm imagining things, but it seems to me like the UFC is trying to cultivate a 'hero' out of Lesnar. I mean, really he only won the fight against Herring, so he's 1-1 in the UFC, that doesn't really warrant a title shot in my opinion. That is unless, of course, they're hoping that Lesnar could be their next Anderson Silva and generate a healthy ratings buzz. They did the same thing for Silva when he first jumped on board, he was a big name and he had one impressive victory so they gave him the title shot. I don't really like the idea of Lesnar winning, but I think it's a sad inevitability to be perfectly honest. He just seems too much to handle. I feel the same way I did about the Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie fight: They're throwing an up and comer at a man past his prime to try to build the legend of the former. In my heart I root for Randy but my battle instincts say that Lesnar will prevail. It sucks. I need a tissue.
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#411578 - 11/14/08 03:05 AM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: Novum]
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Maybe I'm imagining things, but it seems to me like the UFC is trying to cultivate a 'hero' out of Lesnar. I mean, really he only won the fight against Herring, so he's 1-1 in the UFC, that doesn't really warrant a title shot in my opinion. That is unless, of course, they're hoping that Lesnar could be their next Anderson Silva and generate a healthy ratings buzz. They did the same thing for Silva when he first jumped on board, he was a big name and he had one impressive victory so they gave him the title shot. I don't really like the idea of Lesnar winning, but I think it's a sad inevitability to be perfectly honest. He just seems too much to handle. I feel the same way I did about the Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie fight: They're throwing an up and comer at a man past his prime to try to build the legend of the former. In my heart I root for Randy but my battle instincts say that Lesnar will prevail. It sucks. I need a tissue.




I agree about Lesnar being made to be more than he actually is. He was a collegiate wrestling champ, good for him. There is alot of hype mainly because of his size.

Anderson Silva did very well in Pride and was 12-0 as a MT fighter, you can't compare the two. Kind of like Dan Henderson and that other Sylvia guy(axe murderer). They had already proven themselves outside of UFC.
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#411579 - 11/14/08 04:04 AM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: Novum]
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Quote:

Maybe I'm imagining things, but it seems to me like the UFC is trying to cultivate a 'hero' out of Lesnar.




I agree and it's all down to ratings, at the end of the day. Lesnar's a big pull for many professional wrestling fans out there and Dana White's not going to ignore that. Just like if Kurt Angle did indeed try MMA like he claims - I'm sure he'd get a title shot pretty quickly compared to the 'average Joes' who have to work their way up. Hype it up, make sure that people like Stone Cold and The Rock are invited (like with Lesnar vs Mir) and boom - UFC's quids in.

Looking forward to it though! Although I don't see how Lesnar would come back if he lost.

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#411580 - 11/14/08 05:02 AM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: NewJitsu]
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Remember: this is a business. For example, they have no true rankings system, so that they can book any match they determine will be popular. That is why Lesnar is in there in the first place.

I think everyone agrees that some type of history will be made for MMA with this fight.


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#411581 - 11/14/08 05:25 AM Re: Couture vs. Lesnar [Re: BlackPaladin]
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Randy was a wrestling coach and got offered a title shot after 4 fights in the UFC he didn't deserve a title shot then but he got it.

I think Brock has a chance of winning in the 1st-2nd round, past that Randy has the upper hand. I want Randy to win.

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