FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 39 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
old1, Leonar, ManLar, Vimido, raya
22925 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
futsaowingchun 4
Ronin1966 3
AndyLA 1
GojuRyuboy13 1
Matakiant 1
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 10:32 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
Tan,Bong,Fuk & Wu Sao
by futsaowingchun
09/30/14 12:10 AM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
09/25/14 08:50 AM
Wing Chun-internal training
by futsaowingchun
09/23/14 09:01 PM
Martial News
by Matakiant
09/23/14 06:42 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Bartfast
08/05/14 04:18 PM
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/30/13 07:41 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by Leo_E_49
01/24/12 02:58 AM
Recent Posts
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 10:32 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by swordy
10/11/14 09:21 AM
Living a full life violence free...
by cxt
10/10/14 10:08 AM
The Karate punch
by Ronin1966
10/09/14 03:16 PM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Ronin1966
10/08/14 09:22 PM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by AndyLA
10/04/14 10:20 AM
Tan,Bong,Fuk & Wu Sao
by futsaowingchun
09/30/14 12:10 AM
Wing Chun-internal training
by futsaowingchun
09/23/14 09:01 PM
Forum Stats
22925 Members
36 Forums
35582 Topics
432509 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#410092 - 10/22/08 11:13 PM Something to Ponder
VDJ Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 1674
Is a TKD training hall in Japan called a "Dojang" or a "Dojo"? The art being Korean would make you think it should be the former while being in the country of Japan and their language would be the latter. Any one know?

VDJ

Top
#410093 - 10/23/08 05:05 AM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: VDJ]
BrianS Offline
Higher rank than you
Professional Poster

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
I think it's called a flashy shotokan dojo.
_________________________
The2nd ammendment, it makes all the others possible. <///<




Top
#410094 - 10/23/08 09:35 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: BrianS]
TKD_X Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 786
Loc: HERE
Is the instructor Korean? Then it becomes a Kyokushin Dojo.
If he is a loyal Korean then it would be dojang.
You could skip both and call it "kwan".
_________________________
Are you ok!?!? It was an accident! No really! I promise!

Top
#410095 - 10/23/08 10:20 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: VDJ]
ITFunity Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2053
I think some may be confusing the issue. In English speaking countries we might say TKD school. However as students of TKD in Korean we would say Dojang. Now in Japan, they would not use school, but rather Dojo. However TKD students should use Dojang. From the ones I know in Japan, they do use Dojang.
It should be noted that the caliber of TK-D in Japan is very high. It was introduced there in the early 80s by Ambassador Choi & GM Park Jung Tae lived there teaching in the 1st Dojang. The results were amazing as the team from Japan won 1st place team patterns in the 1988 WCs held in Budapest. Ambassador Choi was over joyed seeing his Art being embraced in Japan & being so successful.

Top
#410096 - 10/24/08 11:05 AM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: TKD_X]
VDJ Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 1674
Quote:

Is the instructor Korean? Then it becomes a Kyokushin Dojo.
If he is a loyal Korean then it would be dojang.
You could skip both and call it "kwan".




Sorry TKD_X,

First off, Kyokushin is a style in itself and I am not sure that you understood what I was asking as I am asking about the art of TKD not the instructor. However( as is no surprise here), ITFunity's answer makes more sense to my question.

VDJ

Top
#410097 - 10/24/08 04:35 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: VDJ]
TKD_X Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 786
Loc: HERE
i was just trying to make a joke like BrianS did. i guess it didn't work. he said it would be a flashy shotokan dojo. I thought of a korean-japanese connections and then mas oyama and then kyokushin. it wasn't meant to be a serious response. sorry for the confusion. and for the record, i know what kyokushin is.

-TKD_X
_________________________
Are you ok!?!? It was an accident! No really! I promise!

Top
#410098 - 10/25/08 12:21 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: TKD_X]
flynch Offline
Member

Registered: 09/04/07
Posts: 265
Since mine is in a student union building of as local university I call it martial arts class.

I think if you were in Japan it would be properly refered to as a dojo as that is the Japanese term. If you were trying to be exclusionary and elitest then you would use the term dojang.

Top
#410099 - 10/25/08 02:18 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: flynch]
ITFunity Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2053
Mr Flynch then how should they address their teacher?
sensei
sabumnim
same thing in my eyes
Korean MA of TKD uses both english & korean terminology, in each country the native language there is obviously substituted for english, hower the korean terms still apply, no?
in the WCs the instructions are give in korean, so why would they not use korean terms for the KMA of TKD in japan?
a dojang is a place where tkd is trained

Top
#410100 - 10/25/08 03:48 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: ITFunity]
flynch Offline
Member

Registered: 09/04/07
Posts: 265
Different in mine. Instructor I can see using the term from the specfic art. Building is a building.

My instructor teaches in English there are no korean terms used except for the pattern names.

I must admit I do not know any korean terms it just not something that has every been used or required to be known. Alas ... I guess I would not do well at the world championships.

Top
#410101 - 10/25/08 10:54 PM Re: Something to Ponder [Re: flynch]
ITFunity Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 07/15/06
Posts: 2053
Quote:

Different in mine. Instructor I can see using the term from the specfic art. Building is a building.
My instructor teaches in English there are no korean terms used except for the pattern names.
I must admit I do not know any korean terms it just not something that has every been used or required to be known. Alas ... I guess I would not do well at the world championships.



Ok so you know I can't pass up a good debate, although this may seem like a lame topic/point, but here goes:
Building is a Building, yes but there are different types of buildings, apartment buildings that house people, school building that house academic classes, commerical buildings that house stores or manufactorers, office buildings that house businesses, etc. Now there are also buildings that house martial art training centers, like a Dojo for karate & a dojang for TKD. I don;t think it is being elitist, but just respectfull to the Art.
So then how do you address your teacher? How do you bow in & start the class? We use all Korean terms.
Now in the WCs it makes sense to use korean terms, as not everyone knows english & that would make a possible unfair advantage. So since it is a KMA korean terms are mandatory for competition, as it equals the playing field.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >






Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Stun Guns
Variety of stun gun devices for your protection

Buy Pepper Spray
Worry about your family when you’re not around? Visit us today to protect everything you value.

Koryu.com
Accurate information on the ancient martial traditions of the Japanese samurai

C2 Taser
Protect yourself and loved ones from CRIME with the latest C2 Taser citizen model. Very effective.

 

 



Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga