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#407534 - 09/24/08 03:56 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: fileboy2002]
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fileboy,

I think you are right in that Aikido doesn't transfer well into sport. At least not as well as BJJ. For self-defense application, I could not say with the same certainty.

Michael

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#407535 - 09/24/08 04:35 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: Taison]
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Edited by Ames: As I stated these kind of personal attacks, and general troll behavior will not be tolerated.



Edited by Ames (09/24/08 05:57 PM)

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#407536 - 09/24/08 04:51 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: GansuKid]
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a 42 year old kid eh? niiiice.

"This conversation is over from where I stand"
then why did you go on to type another paragraph and a bit that turned out to be a flame?

"the nonsense your trying to sell."
non sense? in the entire post you quoted from Donnie, please show me where the nonsense is.

"no matter what you say Iíll come back with the same stuff I stated before"
this is the crux of internet "discussion", you can choose to ignore what's being said in favor of running your virtural mouth and flashing your credentials. this is not a pissing contest, you want to have a dicsussion, then talk, please. if you want to mock people, you will be told, over and over again.
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#407537 - 09/24/08 04:57 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: BrianS]
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Edited by Ames in a hopeful attempt to keep the conversation topical/civil/interesting.



Edited by Ames (09/24/08 05:56 PM)

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#407538 - 09/24/08 05:54 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: GansuKid]
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Gansukid, I've warned via p.m. regarding personal/art based attacks. Consider this your final warning. I will ban you if you continue.
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#407539 - 09/24/08 10:48 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: Taison]
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Quote:



here's a little thing I got from Bullshido.com; Put up a video or it didn't happen.





Absolutely good advice!!! Regardless of whether your pro MMA pro TMA or some combination thereof, all this bantering back and forth about which art will or will not work is purely theoretical. Even if any individual poster's viewpoint is "true", without hard evidence (such as youtube, acccurate historical documents, etc, it is nothing more than theories, opinions, and conjecture.

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#407540 - 09/24/08 11:02 PM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: tomh777]
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With the idea of "hard evidence" in mind, since some people have complained that one of the reason aikido can't work in an MMA setting is because of the rules that limit the usage of certain techniques, I'm curious if there's any record of aikido/aiki jutsu folks competing in No Holds Barred competitions prior to the advent of MMA? If so, what were the results?

Thanks

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#407541 - 09/25/08 02:04 AM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: tomh777]
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Exactly,

What were the results?

You could say "if I set fire to grass, I'll burn down the whole forest", and it's quite logical, but is it actually possible to set fire to green grass?

~Donnie
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#407542 - 09/25/08 03:05 AM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: Taison]
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Taison, care to elaborate?
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#407543 - 09/25/08 03:11 AM Re: Hmm... Okay.... [Re: Ames]
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What I meant, in the context of 'dangerous' techniques, it is quite simple for these so called 'super aikido-ka' to state that their techniques are dangerous however has there ever been any record of someone actually having some results in the MMA format?

Theory is theory. There will always be too many variables to make everything work accordingly. That's what these 'super aikidoka' do; they say they could do this, do that, break a neck, grab the throat, etc etc, yet they never do it. Do they even know if it would work at all? It sounds logical but in practice it may be not?

Green grass doesn't catch fire btw.

~Donnie
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