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#407419 - 09/13/08 02:00 PM Tomari Te Kata Avaliable!
shoshinkan Offline
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The powers of youtube now make these things avalaible to us all,

I think Tomari Te deserves recognition, and therefore am pleased to simply link you all, into some of the kata from the Kosaku Matsumora (1829-1898)-Kodatsu Iha-Seiyu Nakasone lineage,

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Nakasone+Seiyu+&search_type=&aq=-1&oq

This footage was taken at a formal demonstration in Okinawa 1982.
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#407420 - 09/13/08 03:21 PM Re: Tomari Te Kata Avaliable! [Re: shoshinkan]
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Hi Jim,

Thank you, I had just found them myself the other day. We owe Mario McKenna a big debt for sharing them.

I have some private video on Tomari-te but this is the most extensive I've seen.

interesting
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#407421 - 09/13/08 03:59 PM Re: Tomari Te Kata Avaliable! [Re: Victor Smith]
shoshinkan Offline
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your e-mail highlighted them to me Victor, yes indeed very good footage.

It is fantastic to see clearly authentic kata from that line, it has it's own flavour dosen't it.
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#407422 - 09/15/08 06:35 PM Re: Tomari Te Kata Avaliable! [Re: shoshinkan]
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Interesting, but Jim, you have seen such kata from the Matsumora/Kodatsu line before. Nagamine's Passai, Wanshu, Wankan, and Rohai were taught to him from Kodatsu and his Naihanchi from Chojin Kuba(a student of Kodatsu as well). However, I have never seen a "dai" version of kata independent of Itosu so that makes me wonder why the wansu was labeled as dai. However, the Naihanchi Sandan does further support the theory that there is a line of Naihanchi kata other than Naihanchi Shodan independent of Itosu from Uku Giko. In fact, this Naihanchi Sandan is very close to that of Nagamine.
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#407423 - 09/15/08 07:06 PM Re: Tomari Te Kata Avaliable! [Re: medulanet]
shoshinkan Offline
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yes of course Meds,

I did train Matsubayashi for a few years, im just comparing the passai and they are very close, good stuff.

I started off comparing the Kusanku and thought hang on aminute............but yara Kusanku is not Tomarite is it ! LOL LOL.



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#407424 - 09/16/08 11:17 AM Re: Tomari Te Kata Avaliable! [Re: medulanet]
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FYI, the original version of Wansu that Tokashiki Iken learned from Nakasone, Tokashiki referred to as Wansu dai. He later developed another version based on studying and discussions with a peer of Nakaone (Hokama I believe) and called it Wansu sho.

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