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#405358 - 08/22/08 10:54 AM Street fights and MMA
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Many of you talked about how different MMA was than a real self defense situation so I want to know what you base that on. To me theres only two differences, MMA fighting is going to have higher skill levels on average, and in self defense theres no rules or ref to save your a$$. So which is really going to more difficult?

Its just a question.
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#405359 - 08/22/08 11:11 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Chen Zen]
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There are so many variables in a streetfight it's hard to assess.

MMA- same weight and probably near the same skill level. Same type of training, same rules, same environment, referee, etc...

I really don't know which would be harder,but I think I would have more success in a streetfight. I've never been in an official mma match.
They are entirely two different animals.
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#405360 - 08/22/08 11:37 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Chen Zen]
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MMA fighting is going to have higher skill levels on average, and in self defense theres no rules or ref to save your a$$. So which is really going to more difficult?




I think in general an MMA fight is going to be more difficult only because you are fighting a trained fighter. In general, most people on the street just brawl, and assuming you are not caught off guard any trained MMA fighter shouldn't be to bothered by unskilled brawlers....in general. (we see them all the time in our MMA classes)

But, I would refer to Cord's video post on another thread (can't recall which one). I think that is a clip every MA and MMA student should see and digest, so they don't take their 3 BJJ classes and hit the bar looking to prove some skill.

Street fighting is just a form of violence, the worst punch you will ever feel, is the one you don't see coming.
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#405361 - 08/22/08 11:41 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: BrianS]
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MMA fighting will be harder then street fighting; there is absolutely no question about it.

In a street fight I would fair well; better then average for sure due to training. However having trained around people that do MMA and knowing what they do to prepare and at the levels they do; I wouldn't fair well. I don't have the training attention or drive that they do plus the commitment. Training for MMA is hard and if you want to fight high level people then that means not only training at higher levels it means changing things in your fight game and that is a mental thing. Plus you are always needing to sharpen your skills plus take on others.

Street fights are over in seconds, MMA fights can be 5 each 5 minute rounds. Street fights look like brawls and are rarely technical where as MMA fights are technical. Lets put it this way, you could put a MMA fighter in the streets and would probably kick A$$ but put a street fighter in the MMA ring and he'll be the one on the losing end.

There is no training in street fighting, any punk can do that. Has a lot to do with ego more then anything else and in many cases most people don't really want to fight but due to this ego, egging on by friends, intoxication (liquid courage) or to impress people they will fight and usually the first to the punch wins. In MMA both are coming to fight and are prepared as they have been training; they are "prepared".

Oh, and just for the record, street fighting is not self defense. Street fighting again is an ego thing as explained above and it can be avoided. Self defense is defending your life in situations that you have little to no control over. (i.e. mugging, raping, etc.)
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#405362 - 08/22/08 11:46 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Dereck]
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Good post Dereck!

Kimo,

Lazy butt, find the video and post it!
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#405363 - 08/22/08 11:49 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Kimo2007]
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Street fighting is just a form of violence, the worst punch you will ever feel, is the one you don't see coming.




Nice Kimo, I like that. And again, street fighting ... any punk can do that.
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#405364 - 08/22/08 11:54 AM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: BrianS]
Kimo2007 Offline
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Lazy butt




LOL Guilty as charged!

OK I admit that post was my way of getting Matt to do my work for me, but I will search the threads and find the video myself!

(feels like my wife logged in and yelled at me!)

[url//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf5GKaGy9s]Cord's Video Post[/url]


Edited by Kimo2007 (08/22/08 12:02 PM)

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#405365 - 08/22/08 01:23 PM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Chen Zen]
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I agree fighting skilled trained people is alot more difficult then street fighting, though there is a rare chance it could be the same.

I do think MMA is safer in that that its a controlled enviroment with referees, doctors, no weapons and none of his buddies around in match, MMA is safer bc you can No mass anytime you want. Street fighting there is more a chance you can be beaten to death. MMA pays, if u get to that level.

But as far as defeating a MMAer with their aerobic level, striking power, overalll aresenal and fittness as high as it is, Street fighting is easy. Because you can run and you don't care if they ask you back to fight again.


Edited by Neko456 (08/22/08 01:38 PM)

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#405366 - 08/22/08 03:35 PM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: Neko456]
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MMA sport is sparring in a weight class. Unless you train certain attributes to be on the same level or better than your opponent a street fighter wont stand a chance in an mma match. A street fighter uses dirty tactics in order to fight out of his weight class. There are no rules in the street.

Currently I train for street fighting.
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#405367 - 08/22/08 07:45 PM Re: Street fights and MMA [Re: TeK9]
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I don't train MMA, so I don't have a direct opinion on that part but:

I think it's unwise to automatically assume a "streetfight" is strictly a category that involves 2 drunken, unskilled idiots.

It may not be a socially laudable skill (somewhat at least) as skilled MMA fighting is, but there are plenty of people out there who are very skilled at commiting violent acts completely outside of an MMA or even "fair fighting" context, to me that is the type of person to think about in terms of a "streetfight" moreso than some guy who just wants a dedicated one on one with ya.


Edited by Zach_Zinn (08/22/08 07:59 PM)

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