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#404179 - 08/08/08 05:17 AM Beijing Olympics!
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Will anyone be watching the opening ceremonies? They're generally regarded as an excellent display of the host country's culture and there will apparently be a mix of modern and traditional dancing, music and, of course, martial arts displays.
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#404180 - 08/10/08 05:24 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: ThomsonsPier]
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i watched some of it. it was cool. i liked the torch lighting. i've yet to catch any judo or TKD action.
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#404181 - 08/13/08 03:15 AM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: TKD_X]
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Yeh it was great!
The sheer size of it was already amazing, and the skill that everyone put in is awesome
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#404182 - 08/16/08 03:03 AM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: VietPanda]
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I missed it. So sad. So far, I've been watching Phelps and other swimming events.
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#404183 - 08/16/08 10:56 AM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: KickingAngel16]
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I have to say that I am dismayed to hear of the guile the Chinese have employed in the Olympics. CGI-enhanced fireworks, faux patriotic singer, under-age athletes......disappointing to me.

So many other things have been awesome about it, why ruin it with deception?
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#404184 - 08/16/08 03:10 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: MattJ]
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Hi Matt,

Just saw your post. I think the answer is very simple, they don't operate under the rules we play by, which is thier right too.

To them the state controls the content of the show, and if they cgi' part of it, or have someone lipsync, the show is still what they want to show.

They don't accept that only truth is right.

Which gets into fundamental differences between different cultures.
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#404185 - 08/16/08 03:38 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: Victor Smith]
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Can't argue with that.
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#404186 - 08/17/08 02:59 AM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: Victor Smith]
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As far as minimum age - If there is no international standard or rules, then that means the host country at the time, gets to cook the parameters of the contests. making the whole idea of an 'international olympic commitee' a farce.

sorry, cheating on age in the olympics is the same as a 220lb boxer fighting for a lightweight title. ...nothing to do with culture, it's cheating.

if the age minimum needs to be reduced, or a new division added, fine - but let it be with universal and enforced rules.

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#404187 - 08/21/08 07:06 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: Victor Smith]
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Quote:

I think the answer is very simple, they don't operate under the rules we play by, which is thier right too.





under age

...and it's their right to lose their medals too, if the IOC doesn't agree with 'Chinese rules'.


actually, if they don't investigate/punish broken rules, it makes the Olympics arbitrary and relative to the country hosting them. ie: corrupt and illegitimate.

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#404188 - 08/21/08 10:05 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: Victor Smith]
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Quote:

Hi Matt,

Just saw your post. I think the answer is very simple, they don't operate under the rules we play by, which is thier right too.




It's their right to jack up the entire olympics for everyone because it's in their country this year? Hogspit!

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To them the state controls the content of the show, and if they cgi' part of it, or have someone lipsync, the show is still what they want to show.

They don't accept that only truth is right.

Which gets into fundamental differences between different cultures.




Indeed.
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#404189 - 08/21/08 10:29 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: BrianS]
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Unfortunately the Olympics is whatever the International Olympic Committee says it is, and when a country ponies up what Billions of Dollars (or the equivalent) or so to host them, in turn guess who calls the shots.

Similarily some of the events were held in the night because of what NBC put up to carry the show, and in turn made some demands on the IOC too.

Is it right, fair or just. Of course not, it's just the Olympics, nothing more. Nothing new either.
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#404190 - 08/22/08 12:57 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: Victor Smith]
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Yep, and the internatiional commitee says they have to be atleast 16 by years end.

They may well lose the gold over it, so there.
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#404191 - 08/23/08 05:53 PM Re: Beijing Olympics! [Re: BrianS]
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Nice thought but I doubt it.

China just declares her age 16, how can anyone really argue with a government who controls all the records, people, etc.

The IOC has wiped their hands clean, and it's likely to go nowhere, no matter what anyone else thinks.
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