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#403922 - 08/06/08 08:03 PM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Dereck]
Chen Zen Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 7043
Loc: Ms
Im glad to have so much support!

The question was asked, how do I think I would fair against the opponents he's beaten. Well, honestly, I feel like the biggest threat would have been Franklin, but mainly due to his experience and long time running with the belt. Also he had good standup. I havent seen him fight since anderson though. Is he still around? I dont know about Sherdog, and the promo that I fought at is pretty small, but I will ask Jeff about it, because they do keep record somewhere. Im not a world class athlete yet. I say yet because I feel like if I had the trainers, time and enviroment that these guys train with, I could be world class. I have a great work ethic, often devoting a minimum of four hours a day weekly and as much as ten a day on the weekends. I know that he has a better ground game so about 70 percent of my training is devoted to that right now. Its not that my ground game isnt solid, I just dont like to fight there. Everyone seems to keep mentioning Dan Henderson. Personally I never really heard of him till he got his ass kicked. Sorry, just not impressed. I knew who Marqardt was, wasnt impressed, and Irvin didnt even deserve the shot at Anderson IMO. I think he got it mainly because his 8 second win. Lutter, whatever. He can wrestle but what else does he really possess? I think that Andersons most dangerous opponent was franklin, and before he beat him, I would have fought franklin given the chance.

Also I wonder how many fights has he had outside of the gym or ring? Ive had plenty, and theres not a person in the world who can say they beat me. Which would give me reason to believe that I would be a more "professional fighter" than someone who has only fought under the constructs of competition despite my short "MMA Career".

Like I said, Jeff has the ear of Dana and the UFC. He likes my fighting, and wants me to join his gym. When he thinks Im ready Im sure he'll throw out the word. Until then Im going to continue my training, continue fighting, and wait for my shot. I gotta go break in my new bag.

Oh yeah, theres a lot of naysayers here, but how many of you fight regularly? And how many of you have a strategy or pointers for the fight? Brian, I meant to ask you also, how goes your personal fight?


One more thing. Im not confident because Ive won some fights or because Im an ego maniac. Instead Im confident because I have destroyed the fear in my heart, and I rest easy at the end of the day knowing that i have done my best, and that tomorrow I can continue to grow and learn. Peace to all.
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#403923 - 08/07/08 07:09 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Chen Zen]
Tom2199 Offline
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if your striking is as good as Sylvas why dont you just go into pro standup like K1?

Whats your record Chen? not to sound pesemistic but you could have just fought a bunch of chumps and not differentiate the difference between a world class striker and yourself.
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#403924 - 08/07/08 07:48 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Chen Zen]
MattJ Offline
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Everyone seems to keep mentioning Dan Henderson. Personally I never really heard of him till he got his ass kicked. Sorry, just not impressed.




Dude........not impressed? You have very high standards!

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/dan-henderson-195

Henderson has beaten some extremely tough fighters. Goes, Nogueira, Renzo Gracie, Belfort, Wanderlei......these guys are not chumps by any stretch. You may want to google some of his fights before you write him off.
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#403925 - 08/07/08 09:38 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: MattJ]
Dereck Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
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Loc: Great White North
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I think that Andersons most dangerous opponent was franklin, and before he beat him, I would have fought franklin given the chance.




Unfortunately I don't agree that Franklin was his most dangerous opponent. I have much respect for Franklin however he got his butt destroyed twice and most certainly I don't think you would be on par with Franklin. Franklin is most certain a talented and dangerous fighter, just ask my homeboy Jason MacDonald. Jason is a talented and proven fighter and he found Franklin extremely tough. As my Instructor trained with him regularly, and he fights MMA as well, I doubt you would be on par with Jason. Jason has proven himself against opponents that both Silva and Franklin have fought. But I could be wrong like I said above.

If that is your dream Chen then good luck to you. Work hard and get it done.

Sherdog and other fight sites do log in smaller venues, take a look for yourself and type in your own name and it then should pull it up. Then link that back here so we can see. It seems like you are hesitant to do this and I question why?
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#403926 - 08/07/08 11:14 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Chen Zen]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Maybe you can sign with affliction, they are looking for fighters. As sucky as Tito is, he would wipe the floor with you,lol.

Dan Henderson is a BIG name in mma. I don't see how you are a mma fan and not know who he is,lol. Check him out, he was in mma when mma wasn't cool. BTW, he would demolish you too.

Do some fights on some local shows and let us know how it goes. There are some cagefights every couple of months here in Springdale I'm sure you could get on. I'd be there rooting for you and I'd even help you train if you want. It's not that I don't want you to win because I do,but I think you need a reality check and alot more experience before going for the ufc championship.

How many sanctioned mma fights have you had? (streetfights don't count) Have anything on video?
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#403927 - 08/07/08 12:35 PM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: BrianS]
Dereck Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10413
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Most MMA promotions have websites and they have a sign up page. The fighters our of our gym, well former as it closed down June 30th, they fought for the Maximum Fighting Championship (MFC) and The Fight Club (TFC), and some other smaller venues. While the MFC started small it is big now and has been picked up by HDNET Fights. The Fight Club is a small venue. The owner of the MFC has the ear of Dana and this is where Jason MacDonald started. Other fighters have had spots in the UFC and two more at least will be there.

The King of the Cage (KOTC) has a sign up sheet and they travel around as I've seen a few fights here. Other clubs in my area have had fights in the two I've mentioned plus this one. In fact the club I'm with now has a fight team that has fought in all of these including my Professor.

Sherdog and other sites show all of these as once you are in the MMA world then things are recorded. If you are involved you would be to. Even guys that fought once whether won or lost are recorded. So if you've fought what's up?
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#403928 - 08/07/08 03:56 PM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Chen Zen]
Cord Offline
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Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
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Im not a world class athlete yet. I say yet because I feel like if I had the trainers, time and enviroment that these guys train with, I could be world class.




Yeah, and IF's dont put the beans on the table. IF I was 18, had kick ass genetics, top coaching, and massive personal drive, I could be in Beijing competing in my chosen event right now. As it is, I am 34, with no specific sporting agenda or goals, so I will watch on telly like the other 5.99999999999r billion people in the world.

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I have a great work ethic, often devoting a minimum of four hours a day weekly and as much as ten a day on the weekends




Whoa!! thats a potential 40 hour training week

Most triathaletes wouldnt touch a 40 hour training week as a standard, let alone fighters.
Volume is immaterial, it is specificity and performance that are important. More is not better. Better is better.
Couture's first act when taking on Forrest's training, was to make him rest and spend more time away from training. An overtrained fighter has already defeated himself.
Result? Forrest is now Champ. What did Hughes look like having increased from 2, to 3 training sessions a day? Weak, small, and drained, thats what.

Good training is the quivalent of accurate, strategic sniper shots, not spraying an automatic in hope of a hit.

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I know that he has a better ground game so about 70 percent of my training is devoted to that right now. Its not that my ground game isnt solid, I just dont like to fight there.




Then, as suggested, why not go into K1- big cash, TV exposure, top level fighters, no ground work. Seems silly to spend 70% of your training life doing something you dont like.

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Lutter, whatever. He can wrestle but what else does he really possess?




Couldnt we say the same about you in regards to stand up?

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I would have fought franklin given the chance.




And I would fight Klitchko- what an awesome experience. Dont think I would win though

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Also I wonder how many fights has he had outside of the gym or ring? Ive had plenty, and theres not a person in the world who can say they beat me. Which would give me reason to believe that I would be a more "professional fighter" than someone who has only fought under the constructs of competition despite my short "MMA Career".




Aw now come on, you simply must be kidding on this one.

How does hitting a kid in the schoolyard, or a drunk in a bar prepare you for top flight MMA competition?
I would take the pepsi challenge with you on real life violence experience, but an internet peeing competition is not worth the paper its printed on.
Lets take a documented example of transition from 'street' to cage.
Kimbo Slice- strong stand up, plenty of bare knuckle KO's against big strong willing oponents. He comes up against Sean Gannon- a cop with some ground and clinch training, and a wealth of real life experience restraining perps.
Kimbo has real big trouble, and loses.
Gannon's notoriety gets him a UFC fight, against a wrestler with basic GnP strength and a journeyman record. Gannon doesnt get beat, he gets owned. Spanked. B*tchslapped. Humiliated. Embarassed.
Kimbo decides 2 things: 1. He wants to move into MMA. 2. His 'street rep' means zip in the cage, and decides to start from scratch and train for the specific envionment and challenges therein.
Result? Kimbo adapts and shows early signs of talent in MMA. This would not have been the case if he had just walked off youtube into the octagon.

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Like I said, Jeff has the ear of Dana and the UFC. He likes my fighting, and wants me to join his gym.




Great!! do so immediately, and immerse yourself in the MMA world so that should you impress, you are on hand to accept any opertunity given.

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One more thing. Im not confident because Ive won some fights or because Im an ego maniac.




All athletes have ego- its necessary, or they would not have the drive to beat another. If winning didnt matter to them, they simply wouldnt compete.

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Instead Im confident because I have destroyed the fear in my heart, and I rest easy at the end of the day knowing that i have done my best, and that tomorrow I can continue to grow and learn.




That is good for the ego, isnt it?
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#403929 - 08/07/08 05:54 PM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Cord]
Spade Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 255
Loc: Auburn, Al.
I believe in you Chen, In fact tomorrow I start training for Fedor, granted he needs to drop to 150 first, but I'm sure if we meet in my weight class, I'll own him.
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#403930 - 08/08/08 06:28 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Spade]
Tom2199 Offline
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Registered: 04/18/04
Posts: 832
Loc: England
some good posts, just to quote cord on one thing that stuck out at me from reading...

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Good training is the quivalent of accurate, strategic sniper shots, not spraying an automatic in hope of a hit.




slightly like sylvas fighting style...
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#403931 - 08/08/08 09:05 AM Re: I want to fight Anderson Silva [Re: Chen Zen]
JasonM Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 2502
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Also I wonder how many fights has he had outside of the gym or ring? Ive had plenty, and theres not a person in the world who can say they beat me. Which would give me reason to believe that I would be a more "professional fighter" than someone who has only fought under the constructs of competition despite my short "MMA Career".





Wow! That is an impressive street fighting record. Dand you are the man.

Seriously, stop talking about it and be about it. If that is your dream then go for it and don't let anyone stop you.

If you make it onto UFC and win give a shout out to FA.
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