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#401673 - 07/09/08 04:10 AM
Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
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Has the potential to be a real 'creature feature'. Both real big guys with brawling instincts. Herring has started friendly by saying 'If they want me to fight some steroided-out wrestler, then thats fine by me' Lesnar has said that this fight is a 'make of break' event in his MMA path. I just hope that Herring doesn't start taking cheap shots at Brocks WWE background- as a guy who has copied the undertakers wardrobe and entrance, he really shouldnt go there 
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#401674 - 07/09/08 12:04 PM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
[Re: Cord]
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Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
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Brock Lesnar has always been a monster. He wrestled at Minnesota, which being a Big-10 school is known for being a hard ass wrestling program. Its not like when you hear about C.B. Dolloway being an "All-American" out of Arizona State. Arizona state is barely even a second rate program. Lesnar graduated from Minnesota in 2000, but the Gophers won the NCAA team championships in 2001 and 2002 which means even in 2000 it was a tough program. One of my friends wrestled for Ohio State and was a ridiculously good wrestler, but was manhandled by Lesnar. It was like an adult wrestling a small child. Or, like Tiger Woods playing in the ladies PGA...just not fair. NCAA is heavily regulated for enhancement, and he was a bad-ass then, so even if he got help for his stint in the WWE, genetically he has what it takes to be in the shape he's currently in. I've never understood the Heath Herring thing. He has always looked lazy and out of shape to me. I think the whole "cowboy" thing just got him some big attention in Japan because they like just about anything stereotypically over the top "American" (they even drink budweiser on purpose for god's sake!) Herring likes to stand, but he won't be able to stop Lesnar taking him down. If Lesnar has been making some reasonable progress in his training (ie submission defense) then I think Herring may need the Undertaker. Or his creepy little urn carrying sidekick at least. What was that dudes name? 
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#401675 - 07/09/08 05:48 PM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
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Or his creepy little urn carrying sidekick at least. What was that dudes name?
That was Paul Bearer, though he hasnt been with the 'Taker for some years now, aside from a brief return just post 'Attitude' years.
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#401676 - 07/09/08 11:38 PM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
[Re: Cord]
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Paul Bearer used to freak the crap out of me. I think this could be a great fight. Conditioning is going to play a big factor and Heath needs to get in shape to fight a demon like Brock. I want to see if Heath can stop Lesnar's takedowns.
I am glad Mark Coleman got hurt and can fight Lesnar this is going to be a much better bout.
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#401677 - 07/10/08 07:26 AM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
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Lesnar FTW. Herring won't be able to stop the takedown, and I would imagine that Lesnar's ground game should be enough to let him get some mean GnP on Herring.
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#401678 - 07/10/08 08:11 AM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
[Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 06/17/05
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Herring has a habit of feeding his back to his opponent. The first time he does that with Lesnar, it's Finito Santiago.
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#401679 - 07/14/08 06:11 AM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
[Re: Cord]
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Registered: 07/22/04
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Loc: UK
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Didn't Brock Lesnar get knee-barred by Frank Mir? And isn't Heath Herring a Sambo practitioner who has particularly good leg locks? I hope Lesnar has improved his submission defense!
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#401680 - 07/14/08 07:02 AM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
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Didn't Brock Lesnar get knee-barred by Frank Mir? And isn't Heath Herring a Sambo practitioner who has particularly good leg locks? I hope Lesnar has improved his submission defense!
Alternately, you can hope that Herring manages to stay conscious for as long as Mir did. That he was awake to deliver that submission was more by luck than judgement- he took a ferocious pounding 
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#401681 - 07/14/08 09:20 AM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
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Free Rhinoplasty!
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True that, Cord. The Mir fight almost got stopped before Frank was able to get that knee-bar on. Lesnar's striking and GnP are something to be feared.
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#401682 - 07/14/08 04:56 PM
Re: Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar
[Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 08/08/02
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Loc: Lake Ronkonkoma, NY, USA
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Ya know... Lesnar reminds me of a white Bob Sapp. I'm sure he could be good but the hype surrounding him, to me, will be his potential demise in the sport of MMA.
He fought 1 official MMA bout against an average Judoka and then gets a HUGE contract to fight in the UFC. Then they put him up against Frank Mir who they hoped would be the same Frank Mir that was trying to make a comeback after his accident (Hoping for a Brock victory to match the hype). Luckily Mir actually trained for the fight.
So an average judoka (victory), an almost washed up former champion (defeat) and now Heath Herring. I guess they are hoping for another average fighter for Lesnar to fight and destroy.
In all honesty they shouldn't have hyped him up so much and allowed him to work his way up the ranks systematically below the radar. That would have increased his skill and his image in the UFC. I see his reign short and uneventful in the UFC or any MMA org for that matter. He'll probably be another Koscheck and blanket his opponents for the win.
Of course I could be wrong completely and he is the next best thing since sliced bread.
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