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#399516 - 08/19/08 10:49 AM Re: College aikido [Re: BrianS]
JasonM Offline
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wow, didn't know that. I would love to see or read about Lebell choking out Segal. Can't stand the guy anyway....
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#399517 - 08/19/08 10:35 PM Re: College aikido [Re: BrianS]
eyrie Offline
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Still don't see where I or anyone else said all aikido was ineffective.


I have already pointed out fileboy's post #16003988 in this thread. How about yur post #16009339 in the Aikido vs MMA thread? Implying or insinuating is as good as saying it, as I quite easily demonstrated with the [CENSORED!!!!] comment, despite the fact that it was without malice or ill-intent, and simply to illustrate the implications of making an insinuation.

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We can only base our opinions on our own experiences,but that's not good enough for you guys.


Certainly, no one is begrudging your opinion, or that it's not good enough. But what makes your opinion more valid than mine or Grady's? Are our experiences not good enough for you either? Or because our respective experiences do not agree with yours?


Edited by eyrie (08/19/08 10:36 PM)

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#399518 - 08/19/08 10:49 PM Re: College aikido [Re: eyrie]
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I have already pointed out fileboy's post #16003988 in this thread. How about yur post #16009339 in the Aikido vs MMA thread? Implying or insinuating is as good as saying it, as I quite easily demonstrated with the [CENSORED!!!!] comment, despite the fact that it was without malice or ill-intent, and simply to illustrate the implications of making an insinuation.




If implications or insinuations are just as good then you have alot of people to apologize too on here double standard dude.

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Certainly, no one is begrudging your opinion, or that it's not good enough. But what makes your opinion more valid than mine or Grady's?




My opinion will always be more valid than yours or Grady's, that's just the way it is. As if you never "begrudged" my opinion. Have you read your posts before submitting them dd?

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Are our experiences not good enough for you either? Or because our respective experiences do not agree with yours?




So, what percent of an art has to be effective for an art as a whole to be effectve? 90? 50?

Nope, only 10 for you guys and it's golden!! Ready to take on mma and the marine corps!!
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#399519 - 08/19/08 11:06 PM Re: College aikido [Re: BrianS]
eyrie Offline
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My opinion will always be more valid than yours or Grady's, that's just the way it is.


I see... well I see no point in arguing with you then... coz ur always right... and as I suspected just being deliberately argumentative.

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So, what percent of an art has to be effective for an art as a whole to be effectve? 90? 50?


Just one person (not 1%) would be enough to question the entire premise of your theory. But since you're always right, the point is moot.

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#399520 - 08/19/08 11:13 PM Re: College aikido [Re: eyrie]
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Oh come on, that was purposefully sarcastic! It was just a rediculous answer to a silly question EYRIE.

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Just one person (not 1%) would be enough to question the entire premise of your theory. But since you're always right, the point is moot.





The point has been moot for days. I can't argue with a wall. I need fenikushopoopoo or whatever to headbutt the wall 47 times and crack it. He did aikido for about 10minutes so I'm sure he'll be awesome!!!
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#399521 - 08/19/08 11:39 PM Re: College aikido [Re: BrianS]
eyrie Offline
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Opinionated AND sarcastic to the point of ridiculousness... and yet YOU continue to persist in making onanistic remarks.

I was going to make some snide comment about how this is probably a reflection of your personal life and relationships... but what's the point? You won't get it either. All you're concerned with is oneupmanship... so feel free to WIN this argument ANYTIME.


Edited by eyrie (08/19/08 11:39 PM)

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#399522 - 08/19/08 11:49 PM Re: College aikido [Re: eyrie]
BrianS Offline
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Brian takes GOLD!!
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#399523 - 08/20/08 12:37 AM Re: College aikido [Re: BrianS]
tomh777 Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Gentlemen,
As a relatively novice part time martial artist I enjoy the discussions on this board and feel that I gain wisdom and insight from many of you with countless more hours of training and devotion to martials than I have. However, this recent flaming, grandstanding, insulting one another and having your arguments in front of everybody is getting to me. Forgive me for sounding like a traditionalist but doesn't treating one another with honor and respect usually come with the territory of practicing martial arts as well?

Just a thought

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#399524 - 08/20/08 01:03 AM Re: College aikido [Re: tomh777]
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Loc: Chicago, IL
Honor are respect are plenty important, but they should never be used to justify compromising even more important values: honesty and truth.

Too often, "respect" in the martial arts takes the form of lying--i.e. "all arts are equally good" or "it's the artist, not the art." Every other area of human activity (with the possible exception of religion) is considered fair game for critical analysis. Disagreements--even contentious ones, are understood as part of the search for truth. However, in the martial arts, it seems more important to keep the peice than seek the truth.

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#399525 - 08/20/08 02:17 AM Re: College aikido [Re: fileboy2002]
eyrie Offline
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Wow... just wow...

Never mind "respect" or "honesty" - it's the unequivocal lack of probity or moral rectitude demonstrated by insinuating that if someone's perception of the "truth" is different from yours, they're lying???

And what makes YOUR VERSION of the truth THE TRUTH?? Ironic that you should mention "critical analysis" when you don't subject your own arguments to the same.

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