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#397480 - 06/11/08 08:01 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: jude33]
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There is a good evidence that people from Mesopotamia or the area around Mesopotamia were on Okinawa and the surrounding islands.




And this evidence is where.............?
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#397481 - 06/11/08 08:14 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: MattJ]
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And this evidence is where.............?




Hi Matt just been reading your BJJ log. The evidence is actualy on Okinawa/islands. The problem is the specific dating of the evidence. I have no doubt the full story will appear at some time in the future. It would be good when it does.

Any way time will tell and I hope your BJJ training goes as good as the last one.


Jude

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#397482 - 06/11/08 08:31 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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but.... since we've established the immutable truth of your "research", I guess I study mesopotamian karate.






Zach.

I had to add this one.

If the origins of karate named at some time as ti was started by the people from Mesopotamia or the surroundng area.

If you researched karate and found karate began life as ti and was added to by different infleunces such as the Chinese etc.

If you decided certain parts of the art were at some time lost.

Then it wouldnt realy be mesopotamian karate you were studying.

More of a mixture of arts that started life as ti.

Jude

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#397483 - 06/11/08 08:53 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: jude33]
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And this evidence is where.............?




Hi Matt just been reading your BJJ log. The evidence is actualy on Okinawa/islands. The problem is the specific dating of the evidence. I have no doubt the full story will appear at some time in the future. It would be good when it does.

Any way time will tell and I hope your BJJ training goes as good as the last one.


Jude




You see Matt! The evidence is obviously there!! Time will tell???
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#397484 - 06/11/08 08:56 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: jude33]
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Barad,

Looks like you have jude and his tactics figured out. We probably won't hear from him for a bit because of his "researching" or "training". When you do hear back from him he'll want to know how much you can bench, what karate bunkai you see in the Machida's fights, or how Mike Tyson counters punches. He'll back his facts up by saying he weighs 109kilos so you are wrong and refer to medulanet's posts.
Friggin impossible, random, and weird dude that guy.




Interesting how you posted videos, you started a thread, asked questions yet when asked you didint seem to even knew what Machido was doing? or couldnt be bothered stating what he was doing?
Or even finding the age uke that lead to a ko in the first video yet you state some MMA guy would come along and do what ever it is you stated?
I would request again if you could get one video you posted and state exactly what Machido did to win and how kata is connected to those techniques?

Otherwise how can you reach your conclusions?

When it gets technical you seem to be at a loss?

Jude




The only thing I'm at a loss about is what the hell you are talking about,ever.

Like I asked before Are you talking about age uke in the Franklin fight?

Would someone please lock this thread and ban this douche already??

Guys, look in the site suggestions forum. I'm voting for a ban of jude33.
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#397485 - 06/11/08 08:58 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: jude33]
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If the origins of karate named at some time as ti was started by the people from Mesopotamia or the surroundng area.




LMFAO ok, I think you are just messing with us lol, I can't imagine anyone would take this stuff seriously.

Are you for real? Mesopotamia?

Mind boggling "evidence" you showed us there. So why don't you give us a link or academic source to look at?


Edited by Zach_Zinn (06/11/08 09:01 PM)

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#397486 - 06/11/08 09:42 PM jude trains this [Re: Zach_Zinn]
BrianS Offline
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
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Your turn, who do you train with again, and in what?





He trains this

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Trained in the past
Wado, freestyle karate ,shotokan, boxing

At present studying the kata Sepai
and training
MMA mixed with old style Judo



On weights heavy
Weigths for endurance circuit training
Running
bag work
makiwari




What is your age jude?
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#397487 - 06/11/08 09:45 PM Re: jude trains this [Re: BrianS]
BrianS Offline
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
http://www.megafriends.com/profile.php?id=7812230

Is this you jude? You from Texas?
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#397488 - 06/11/08 09:59 PM Re: jude trains this [Re: BrianS]
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Jude is from the UK and weighs 109 kg. This dude hails from Texas and he ain't heavy (and no, he ain't my brother).
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#397489 - 06/11/08 10:16 PM Re: talk to me Jude!" [Re: jude33]
cxt Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 5822
Loc: USA
jude

If your not kidding then I think you deserve all the heartache you get over this issue...and I'm honestly disipointed as well.

If you have evidence for people from mesoptamia being in okinawa then please post it.....always possible, remote, but possible. ...but we have yet to see it.
The world is a smaller place than we think and its possible that people travled more widely than once supposed.....BFD, so what?.......there appears to nothing substanive in terms of cultureal influence or long term effects.
Its like me being a tourist today--it really may impress my buds that I was in Burma, but it doesn't really MEAN anything substantive.,,,,I was there, I looked around, talked to some people, bought some stuff, then left.

Its like all the talk about whom "really" discoverd America--LOTS of people may well have been here prior---but NONE of them lasted or made it---in a very real way America may have been "discovered" many times--but it only STAYED "discovered" once.
So whom may have been here prior is pretty academic...fun to talk about...but substantive it aint.

In any case the real problem here is the 2nd half of the posit....namely just being there is not enough...but if they effected MA practice, or if they effected it but nothing remains (n which case so what?) or what if any CURRENT practices remain.

THEN post the EVIDENCE that if they were there EXACLY how the contributed to extint martial arts practice...in detail.

Seee the one...even if you have the proofs..which I yet to see has NOTHING to do with the other.

My old teacher made a trip to Spain back in the 70's--he worked out with some MA dudes he knew from school--they traded some techniques----can he make a legit claim for "influenceing" Spanish martial arts practices?

Sure--IF you BS just right.


Edited by cxt (06/11/08 10:27 PM)
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