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#396899 - 05/23/08 09:41 PM speed breaks!
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so i tried an unsupported reverse punch speed break today. one where you drop a board and hit it in midair. first time put a nick in sabunim's wall when it didn't break. he told me to do it in the parking lot. what that did was put me in front of the community skatepark and all of the thugs associated with it. so i hold up the board and let off a mean ki-hap. by the time i went to punch it they were all screaming back at me. i had one more unsuccessful go after that. then i asked my friend to just hold the bottom so it would still be relatively unsupported but at least not moving. that was when it finally broke. so i went back in the dojang as the skatepark applauded. now i'm home icing my knuckle . i don't know if it's broken, it'll be a pretty shade of blue tomorrow. anyone want to share some knowledge of breaking unsupported or relatively unsupported 1-inch boards?
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#396900 - 05/23/08 10:54 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: TKD_X]
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so i tried an unsupported reverse punch speed break today. one where you drop a board and hit it in midair. first time put a nick in sabunim's wall when it didn't break. he told me to do it in the parking lot. what that did was put me in front of the community skatepark and all of the thugs associated with it. so i hold up the board and let off a mean ki-hap. by the time i went to punch it they were all screaming back at me. i had one more unsuccessful go after that. then i asked my friend to just hold the bottom so it would still be relatively unsupported but at least not moving. that was when it finally broke. so i went back in the dojang as the skatepark applauded. now i'm home icing my knuckle . i don't know if it's broken, it'll be a pretty shade of blue tomorrow. anyone want to share some knowledge of breaking unsupported or relatively unsupported 1-inch boards?




Hitting a moving board is a fool's errand. i bet most of the damage to your knuckles happenned then. Especially plastic rebreaks.

Have a friend dangle it between thumb and finger and hit it knuckles on the line you want to break.
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#396901 - 05/24/08 01:45 AM Re: speed breaks! [Re: TKD_X]
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#396902 - 05/24/08 03:21 AM Re: speed breaks! [Re: BrianS]
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Ah...to climb the mountain because it's there, to break the mid-air board because it CAN be done, to ring the door-bell and run away...such is the call of the human spirit that is free...and the intemperance and bravado of youth

Ah yes, I was young once...

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anyone want to share some knowledge of breaking unsupported or relatively unsupported 1-inch boards?




Yep.

Leave them things to Bruce and Jean-Claude

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#396903 - 05/24/08 09:38 AM Re: speed breaks! [Re: oldcoach]
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Ah...to climb the mountain because it's there, to break the mid-air board because it CAN be done, to ring the door-bell and run away...such is the call of the human spirit that is free...and the intemperance and bravado of youth

Ah yes, I was young once...

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anyone want to share some knowledge of breaking unsupported or relatively unsupported 1-inch boards?




Yep.

Leave them things to Bruce and Jean-Claude




Actually I have to admit watching GM He Il Cho throw a board about 30 feet into the air and break it with a spin hook kick was pretty impressive. Oh, I forgot to mention he was blindfolded as well. No real purpose other than entertainment I guess. If you REALLY want to challenge yourself, try a Louisville slugger with your shin

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#396904 - 05/24/08 01:37 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: VDJ]
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i just wanted to see if i could do it. just like breaking 5 boards is a demonstration of strength and precision, speedbreaks demonstrate...speed. there are less risky ways to do it like having someone hold a small part of it, but if i ever wanted to do it in demonstration, it would look better to do it solo. keep in mind i didn't throw it up. i just held it with one hand, dropped it, and punched with the other hand. the reason i was practicing is because i have a 2nd degree black belt test approaching and i am contemplating which tecniques i would like to break with. i wanted to know if i could do it to save myself some promblems on the test day in front of the grandmaster. now i know i'm gonna have to have someone hold part of it. just trial and error. board breaks are experiments. if you don't challenge yourself, how can you excel. would you do the same break you did at your white belt test at a black belt test? probably not, because each time you challenge yourself to do a little more. i've done reverse punch power breaks, now i wanted to try something more difficult. so no one here has ever tried a speed break? as much as i appreciate your criticisms (not being sarcastic, i do appreciate them), i was rather looking for advice on the execution of a speed break.
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#396905 - 05/24/08 02:55 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: TKD_X]
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Well for my 3rd dan test I did something similar. However it was not a punch, where your knuckes could take some real damage with the slightest change of angle of the board. I would stear away from that... just my own opinion.
But for mine, I did the same idea as yours, but it was with a spinning hook kick. My left arm started straight out, holding the board in front of myself. I tossed it up... about 2 feet, and executed the spinning hook kick to come around and break it as the board lowered.
On the upward toss, the board rotated, but did not change it's centerline, if you know what I mean. It took some work to get that toss right to keep the board from angleing even the slightest bit sideways as it fell. I spent quite a bit of time just practing the toss before I even began to practicing trying to kick it. Once I got the feel for exactly how to toss it, the rest of it was mostly timing the kick. That might be something to spend some time on that will help you if your pursue this type of break. Give mine a try... you might like it better than the punch, it will keep you from breaking your hand, and it's pretty flashy and impressive if you can pull it off.
Good luck with your break and your testing.

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#396906 - 05/24/08 05:35 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: Andymcc]
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For our 2nd dan test you hold the board with one hand and break it with the a ounch from the other (partially supported)

For our 3rd dan test you toss the board in the air and break it in mid air (unsupported)

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#396907 - 05/24/08 05:39 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: Andymcc]
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You want to challenge your self? Break 50 boards in 30 seconds. Set up stations with say 5 boards each, travel down each station breaking with the technique of your choice. Really want to challenge yourself, do it without spacers.

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#396908 - 05/24/08 05:59 PM Re: speed breaks! [Re: VDJ]
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i'm not too sure about the 50 boards in 30 seconds. i think for my upcoming test i'll end up doing a barely supported roundhouse kick due to the fact that my knuckle feels...crunchy today.
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