lololol ... :P "He had his tongue in the wrong position. It nullified it!"

First it was the "Secret Soken Scroll", then he taught Muhammad Ali his jab, then he went to a couple of Oyata seminars and stole that-I remember the article in I believe Black Belt where Oyata said that Dillman attended a few seminar........
He just never quits.

What made me drop out of DKI wasn't so much the no-touch junk, as my personal experiences I and others with the man.

What totally dropped me was when a blue-belt friend of mine who was DKI had gone to a seminar with Dillman and the ensuing "what the ****?" that happend afterwards.

The fellow had a sensei who was a higher-up amongst Dillman people and thus was able to have dinner with Dillman and the usual post-seminar group. After all was over and everyone was leaving, predictably the BB's took their turns saying goodbye to everyone including Dillman. But, when it was my blue-belt friend's turn to say goodbye to Dillman the man shrugged my friend off. It wasn't like he came up behind him or something. He walked up to Dillman with his hand out for a handshake and Dillman just pulled back and said "No, no, it's okay. really." before my friend could so much as try to reply/inquire. Worse yet, most of the BB's around him and his sensei who got him in to be able to hang out with "master" had the same look on their faces equal to "Just listen to him about that."

You pay 80 + $ to a guy and spend your afternoon/evening at hsi seminar and he won't even shake your hand for a moment afterwards, my friend said with a bit of a grumble as he recounted the story to me.

Yikes, I'd say.

What sucks indeed to me, is that like others mentioend not ALL of the DKI stuff was crock and bull. I still look back on much of my old Kyusho material for grappling/trapping work and have still found it to work pretty well.

Cryin' shame everyone had to get all crazy about teh "Chi powerz". I mean, my old sensei used to be able to do something INTERESTING things that I and others felt, but too bad we never got to learn what it was.

Eh. JKD/FMA serves me well, so no major loss I guess.

He was probably afraid that you were pushing one big toe down or had your tongue on the roof of your mouth so that when you shook hands you would short circuit his ki/chi and he would explode in a large cloud of BS.

I expect what you experienced was just old style karate.

Anyone not a senior black belt doesn't really matter. Not meant as a personal slight, just a reality that many Seniors in Dillman's era lived, and it seems still do.

That doesn't describe all of them, but I've seen enough of it to know it does exist, either that or perhaps he had indigestion ?

I've always felt the reasong George went after Chi power is that once he successfully ripped off a concept from Oyata Sensei and many saw how he did it and then did it to him, he was trying to find a way to move into something new to set him apart again.

He didn't creat no-touch, it's been around for a very long time, he just lent himself to dramatic demonstrations that it doesn't seem to have the slighest merit....