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#395065 - 05/21/08 05:18 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: jude33]
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That is my point. If the kata is only partly understood and flow drills are created then perhaps the flow drills can be at fault.
Either way I am sticking to doing what I do.





Since you still haven't mentioned what exactly it is you do as an alternative, i'll wait for that before going further.

In the previous post I mentioned a small bit of what we do with Gekisai drills, including the Toguchi drill, now it's your turn, how do you train bunkai from Gekisai?


Edited by Zach_Zinn (05/21/08 05:47 PM)

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#395066 - 05/23/08 10:36 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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Quote:

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That is my point. If the kata is only partly understood and flow drills are created then perhaps the flow drills can be at fault.
Either way I am sticking to doing what I do.





Since you still haven't mentioned what exactly it is you do as an alternative, i'll wait for that before going further.

In the previous post I mentioned a small bit of what we do with Gekisai drills, including the Toguchi drill, now it's your turn, how do you train bunkai from Gekisai?




Zach I dont believe you have fully explored Gekisai.
That is the reason I asked for a comparison.
I would like to know the techniques you have aquired.
If and when you decide to post them then I shall to.
I think they will be worlds apart.

After you!

Jude

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#395067 - 05/23/08 10:48 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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Alot of people questioned Taira senseis bunkai drill shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmExIWEglSo
For lack of interaction from uke, to me this can in some ways be a plus, I do think there is something to be said for the "back and forth" creating bad habits sometimes.




Questioned it in what way?
If there is something you dont like about what he does why dont you contact Taira sensei and ask him ?

Jude

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#395068 - 05/23/08 11:29 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: jude33]
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i hate to be a stick in the mud, but you were asked to post a video first, lol. it's like if someone calls "shotgun" and you steal the front seat on them, we've all known the rules since we were 10. put up or shut up, please.
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#395069 - 05/24/08 12:34 AM Re: Kata Embu [Re: student_of_life]
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i hate to be a stick in the mud, but you were asked to post a video first, lol. it's like if someone calls "shotgun" and you steal the front seat on them, we've all known the rules since we were 10. put up or shut up, please.




I dont teach or have major opinions of drills or want to show the world something. So why would I want to post a video?

Any way these postings are leading to nothing so I can no longer see yours or zachs posts

Jude




Edited by jude33 (05/24/08 12:45 AM)

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#395070 - 05/24/08 01:23 AM Re: Kata Embu [Re: harlan]
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Jude - is this the drill you do (or something like it)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLG2YpNerYs

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#395071 - 05/24/08 02:37 AM Re: Kata Embu [Re: dandjurdjevic]
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I think jude does something more along the lines of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpdmNWPYPgE&feature=related
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#395072 - 05/24/08 06:04 AM Re: Kata Embu [Re: BrianS]
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That was most unkind Brian!
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#395073 - 05/24/08 06:40 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: dandjurdjevic]
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Unkind, but Jude's behaviour warrants nothing better.

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Alot of people questioned Taira senseis bunkai drill shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmExIWEglSo
For lack of interaction from uke, to me this can in some ways be a plus, I do think there is something to be said for the "back and forth" creating bad habits sometimes.




I always thought that this was a demo as opposed to a bunkai drill. Also as I read the movements the primary point of this kind of fluid, semi-grappling, continuous, drilling attack is to control the movements of the opponent in a chi-sau-esq manner.
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#395074 - 05/24/08 07:00 PM Re: Kata Embu [Re: Shonuff]
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Personally I liked Taira's drill enormously.
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