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#394723 - 05/13/08 06:33 AM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: The_Master]
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I actually mention Qi in a novel i'm currently working on, so i thought i'd get some feedback. perhaps it is not Qi i'm using when i draw on strength after a 5km run, it may just be believing in something so strongly, that your body believes it too.




You can believe as much as you want to. If the physical capabities arent there in the first place it wouldnt work.
If someone can will themselves to do more, and they do more, then the physical capabilities were there in the first place. The will pushed the body further than the mind would allow.

Jude


Edited by jude33 (05/13/08 06:36 AM)

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#394724 - 05/13/08 02:27 PM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: jude33]
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What an interesting concept of qi. How hard do you think tai-chi people push themselves?

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#394725 - 05/14/08 03:36 AM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: puffadder]
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when i want strength i get it from 'QI' *said in full-on Chinese accent*. or maybe it's just will, who knows?
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#394726 - 05/14/08 08:44 AM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: The_Master]
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Please for goodness sake just find an instructor and start training already. Sitting in your room speculating on what the martial arts and its various terms are isn't going to get you any closer to knowing anything. Start training then develop your "opinion".
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#394727 - 05/14/08 07:04 PM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: puffadder]
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What an interesting concept of qi. How hard do you think tai-chi people push themselves?



What would you say is your concept?
From my studies
Qi exists as a definition of energy. That is provable. There are different types and causes of energy. ATP being one of them.


I should imagine some push themselves quite hard. On the other hand perhaps some dont. If they do then physical capabilities will increase. Why specificly about Tai chi?

Jude

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#394728 - 05/14/08 07:08 PM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: The_Master]
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when i want strength i get it from 'QI' *said in full-on Chinese accent*. or maybe it's just will, who knows?




Strength to do what? What exactly do you do with it?
Are you talking mental strength? physical strength? or power?

Jude

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#394729 - 05/15/08 02:11 AM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: jude33]
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The_Master: a d1ck


Edited by Cord (05/15/08 07:14 AM)

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#394730 - 05/15/08 06:52 AM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: jude33]
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Jude, as someone who studied TKD and wrestling I eventually came to Tai Chi.

My first ten minutes of my first class my muscles were screaming, and all I had to do was stand still! Even an hour or two of the 'relaxing' forms can leave me (and others totally shattered afterwards.And I wouldn't say I'm doing hardcore training.

A Steelwire-Mantis Sifu once said to me, "You think cos TC is a 'soft' MA then the training is soft? Wrong, they have some of the hardest training in KF"

TC is like any art, you can push yourself as far as you want/need to.
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#394731 - 05/15/08 02:21 PM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: trevek]
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Jude, as someone who studied TKD and wrestling I eventually came to Tai Chi.

My first ten minutes of my first class my muscles were screaming, and all I had to do was stand still! Even an hour or two of the 'relaxing' forms can leave me (and others totally shattered afterwards.And I wouldn't say I'm doing hardcore training.

A Steelwire-Mantis Sifu once said to me, "You think cos TC is a 'soft' MA then the training is soft? Wrong, they have some of the hardest training in KF"

TC is like any art, you can push yourself as far as you want/need to.




I should imagine you can. Isometric's . Lovely stuff. The standing still part.

Jude

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#394732 - 05/15/08 03:51 PM Re: My 'ignorance' in believing in External Qi-Kun [Re: jude33]
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Yeah, 5 minutes in simple basic stance with hands out at waist height. By minute 2 my muscles were going into tremor.

After minute five he said "Ok, now take up this position". Weight on right leg and right hand out. "3 minutes" instant tremor.

By the end of minute 6 I am thinking "Hell! I'm paying to have this pain and I have another 80 minutes of it!!!!!"
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