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#393493 - 05/27/08 07:16 AM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: BrianS]
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Jude




I might be inclined to share with you my experiences with makiwara and my feelings about them. I will say that I very much agree with Seiken.

jude,

How about YOU answering questions instead of always badgering and asking?




What question would you like me to answer?

You studied a different strain of goju is that correct?
Not Okinawan based?

Jude

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#393494 - 05/27/08 11:27 AM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: jude33]
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jude,
there are several questions in this thread and elsewhere directed at you.

I'm not going to address any of your questions directed at me until you answer them.
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#393495 - 05/27/08 11:59 AM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: BrianS]
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jude,
there are several questions in this thread and elsewhere directed at you.

I'm not going to address any of your questions directed at me until you answer them.




I would rather discuss something with a technical merit than a question such as to who is your teacher routine.
Like reverting certain judo throws back to their true intention. If you would like to discuss that as regards to the ones you practice then fine.
If not thats fine.

Jude.

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#393496 - 05/27/08 12:09 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: jude33]
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No thanks. I'm not playing your game.
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#393497 - 05/27/08 12:55 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: BrianS]
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No thanks. I'm not playing your game.




Game as in judo?

Its ok I understand. By the way are you aware of kata in judo? Might be something to study if competition isnt required. But they are two man kata. Not solo. They even have kata with self defence. Just to keep on topic.


Jude


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#393498 - 05/27/08 01:14 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: jude33]
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lol. Inserting the words "self defence" in to your reply doesn't really keep the post on topic!


Edited by creative (05/27/08 01:15 PM)
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#393499 - 05/27/08 02:24 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: creative]
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lol. Inserting the words "self defence" in to your reply doesn't really keep the post on topic!




MMA and self defence in the title.

Jude


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#393500 - 05/27/08 06:34 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: jude33]
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Yes, I am aware of that.

What is your mma setting like? Do you spar often? What are your rules/limitations?
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#393501 - 05/27/08 08:31 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: BrianS]
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#393502 - 05/27/08 09:39 PM Re: MMA as Self-Defense? [Re: jude33]
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I totaly disagee with everything above. . Perhaps ask your self this question? Why was it trained as a part of karate?

Jude




Sorry I hadnt replied sooner, I forgot about this thread. But I do believe I already answered via my last post.

As for your other question. Yes I have trained with a makiwara. Several different types at different times for different reasons, but the standard ground makiwara we are talking about is what im referencing. It was effective in the areas I already stated, it made no difference as far as actual conditioning went and the relation to my hand being broken.. im sure my bones have changed, but they didnt break when I punched people before.

Currently I train a wall makiwara for conditioning, and fun. I enjoy hitting things, I cant have a heavy bag hanging in my living room anymore so its convenient. I also dont hit it nearly as hard as traditional makiwara.

I can say I continued to receive the same benefits from a heavy bag, but my initial technique was fostered on a makiwara which was much less forgiving of mistakes.

I really really really enjoy makiwara training. And think its extremely effective. My point is being missed completely. Conditioning, more specifically conditioning in regards to makiwara training, IMVHO is the last thing people should be concerned about when it comes to breaking your hand. And when it comes to broken hands in fights, there are way too many factors to just single out bareknuckle conditioning.

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