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#392935 - 05/16/08 07:30 PM Re: New Poomsae [Re: Seiken]
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If you consider 40 old, I will be pleased to give you an attitude adjustment. At 52 I still compete regularly in 19-35 age divisions. Some people I compete against wish I would go into the "old" divisions, but it isn't out of concern for me.




Good point & worth repeating! TKD is an individual journey of self improvement.




Pretty much the basis for my point.

Individual, meaning not everyone can do or should have to do because someone else can do. Its easy to regulate yourself, either you can or cant do it. And if you can you choose whether you do or dont. If you cant, you dont. You only have to worry about yourself .

So then how does a governing body regulate millions of people on something so individual in competition? I believe these poomse are part of the answer.





Easy! Let them do the pattern & judge it accordingly. What is wrong withn that?
For example, in the ITF, a 2nd Dan BB is responsible for 15 patterns. Everyone will say tha Juche & its 45 movements is the most difficult one. Now I can do the Tul, but of course the very hard techniques are almost impossible for me to perform. Now in the WCs, a player must pick an optional pattern (I wouldn't pick Juche) from ChonJi to Juche. Then the judges panel will designate any one from ChonJi to Juche. If the draw says Juche, I am done, my goose is cooked. But it should. If the opponent, who is in my age & trank group, does it better they win.
Whats wrong with that?

Although TKD as I study it, is for everyone, equal results or output is not guareented, nor should it. let the better player win.

I see no need for different patterns for different age groups. I also see nothing wrong with older students not perfroming as well as the younger hot shot talented superstars. Thats life. But you know what, a 40+ year old is not going up against a 20 year old in their prime. Unless of course the 40 year old is good enough to go against the hot shots, then go for it!

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#392936 - 05/16/08 09:04 PM Re: New Poomsae [Re: ITFunity]
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that's a really cool system ITFUnity. Let the luck of the draw choose your form. that's very cool indeed.
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#392937 - 05/16/08 10:24 PM Re: New Poomsae [Re: TKD_X]
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that's a really cool system ITFUnity. Let the luck of the draw choose your form. that's very cool indeed.




Yes it insures that students know all their patterns from white belt up to their current level. It also allows the judges to pick out who has the correct movement & technical conformity. So to do this, one can use any pattern.

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#392938 - 05/17/08 04:48 PM Re: New Poomsae [Re: ITFunity]
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i'm still a little confused about bikak. it looks more difficult than ileyo for example. i don't do the WTF/Kukki poomse, but just from the looks of the two forms, it doesn't make sense than ileyo would be a higher level poomse than bikak.
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