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#392595 - 04/22/08 04:39 PM Solo training
Zach_Zinn Offline

Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 1031
Loc: Olympia, WA
So yeah, how important is it to you? How important do you think it generally is in karate? What does your solo training consist of?

For me:

Standing excercises similar to zhan zhaung or qigong or whatever, and some other stuff in the same vein, supplementary to Sanchin kata.

Kata practice in a variety of ways and on different terrain etc., a little strength training, headache bag, heavy bag, makiwara. That's mostly it. Not all in one session obviously.

Edited by Zach_Zinn (04/22/08 04:41 PM)

#392596 - 04/22/08 07:20 PM Re: Solo training [Re: Zach_Zinn]
student_of_life Offline

Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 1032
Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
solo training is vital i think. mine consists of kata and hitting lots of things, weight training, plyo, and alot of skipping for cardio.
its not supposed to make sense

#392597 - 04/22/08 10:17 PM Re: Solo training [Re: Zach_Zinn]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/02
Posts: 3116
Loc: East Coast, United States
Hello Zach:

Without solo training my practice time is SEVERELY diminished.

I can only find so many people foolish enough to let me SHARE this with them, and will still remain genuine friends afterwards. Without solo practices I will never discover nuances, subtlety and learn to examine my own bodys method.
With a partner I can refine them but solo practice requires that I examine inward....

Solo is mandatory.


#392598 - 04/23/08 06:41 AM Re: Solo training [Re: Ronin1966]
CVV Offline

Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 605
Loc: Belgium
I try to train every morning during the week.
- 20 mins spinning. Good for my knees (both operated)
- general warm-up from toes till neck with stretching,
squads, 150 reps of various abdo exercises, push-ups (30)
- sanchin
- some more stretching
- either sai or tonkuwa or karate kata
- tensho.

Takes about 50 - 60 minutes

Importaant to me for keeping fit.

#392599 - 04/23/08 07:07 AM Re: Solo training [Re: CVV]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
Posts: 6665
Loc: Amherst, MA
I started MA to be fit, but discovered I wanted to be fit in order to do MA. I don't consider strengthening & conditioning to be part of training...even though the purpose to be better at MA. So, non-class nights I alternate between biking 2 times (or more a week) for a few miles/an hour (seasonal), and weights/situps/gong li followed with sanchin and whatever pointer/katas I want to work on.

I get a lot of things pointed out every class, and with only two classes a week, the only way to retain stuff, or get better, is to train solo on off-days. The hard part is finding the time to plug in a large enough block of time on a regular basis, and keep to it, and a space/privacy to do it. Empty hand is easier....kata during lunch at work. But after 4 years, I still find that getting time and space to practice kobudo is a problem.

#392600 - 04/23/08 01:24 PM Re: Solo training [Re: harlan]
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 1228
Loc: beaver falls, PA, beaver
I always tell my students to do solo training. There is a need for it in Karate you aren't going to defend yourself with your Sensei in the corner telling you what to do. It is important for mental training as well.

How hard can you push yourself when no one is there? Will you quit quickly alone or will you push harder? When I train alone mostly I shadow box and do strength training.

#392601 - 04/23/08 01:50 PM Re: Solo training [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 3260
Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
Training by myself is and was alwalys instrumental to me it where you set your personal goals and become a self critic.
This where you can be totally honest with yourself feel and test you combinations or single moves to strengthen them an make them better.

I usually like warming up strechting, work a little speed bag legs and hands, heavy bag, shadow boxing, self defense drills, perfect fakes and fients with foot work in the mirror, single techniques workng speed and power, combos working on flow with s/p, my favorite 2-3 Katas, then shadow box with the moves, core strengthen training using Kata Sanchin/Tensho, then weight lifting & running on opposite days then some cardio.

Maybe some weapon training sometimes usually shadow boxing rather then trad kata for hand speed, foot speed, lossen & strengthen, fingers, forearms, waist, hips, fingers, wrist, legs and joint using speed and torque instead of slow weight reps.

Solo train helps improves the self.

Edited by Neko456 (04/23/08 01:53 PM)

#392602 - 04/24/08 02:11 PM Re: Solo training [Re: Zach_Zinn]
Ives Offline

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 691
Loc: the Netherlands
Mostly stance training and kihon.
Shiho-tsuki-geri, it's a short kihon exercise with nearly all basic techniques and some turns.

Some kata every now and then.

And this thread reminds me to get to it more often.

#392603 - 04/24/08 02:35 PM Re: Solo training [Re: Neko456]
JasonM Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 2502
Hi Neko,

I am just curious, but do you train more than just your favorite 2-3 kata? Do you ever go threw all of them at once?

- J
90 percent of good abs is your nutrition

#392604 - 04/24/08 04:42 PM Re: Solo training [Re: JasonM]
Zach_Zinn Offline

Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 1031
Loc: Olympia, WA

Hi Neko,

I am just curious, but do you train more than just your favorite 2-3 kata? Do you ever go threw all of them at once?

- J

I know your asking Neko, but i'm gonna give my own answer on this one.

Minus people who are inredibly experienced or incredibly gifted, I generally think it's best to stick to 2 or 3 favorite kata, and kind of just "have" the rest.

This is the way I was pretty much taught, I know a few apps for the kata outside my favorites, and I can perform them, but my favorites are the ones I concentrate on, even in just solo practice.

Again, simply my opinion but it seems unlikely to me that most of us will be able to grasp enough of all kata in their system to make equal practice worth it.

Edited by Zach_Zinn (04/24/08 04:48 PM)

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