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Nope, never heard of a Sagi Makiwawai, is that similar to a Sagi Makiwara? Do you train that along with Sepia?

Sorry couldn't resist, out again.

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Yes Zack I thought that would tickle you somewhat. Very good, forum spell checker. So I presume you know what one is? Otherwise you would have accepted the spelling.

Nope dont train with one. Seems strains of karate did and still do. Be some what like grappling and weapons training
and dare I say it? ground fighting. Maybe they did and now dont. That is the relationship to the thread and the topic.

Interesting when people can call others on here yet when it is their turn they just allow their egos to rebuild while using the ignore button. If you cant take it then why give it?

Yes, there is and has always been groundfighting in karate,ALWAYS!!

medulanet is right and jude can quit humping his leg now.

Sheesh.......

Though I believe Med has a right to his opinion and he is in good company with McCarthy Sensei and others. But the thought that something is superior or orginal if it has something that another doesn't was established in numerous before mentioned threads. Though Med has left that along he still states his views and this is good when youi look at these threads. Which seems to be because Okinawans practice submission wrestling it had to be a part of early even modren Karate training and some how made it into Kata.

I'm assuming these are not his exact words.

In recent 4-5 threads Med has reframed from talking down to people in my opinion he is just trying to make his point. Some people just don't forget so easily.

As the non GF in Kata people are stating knowledge of ground fighting enhances and makes one a well rounded fighter, but I yet to see it in the Katas practiced such as Naihanchi/Tekki, practice on it's back on the ground is a far scretch for me at least, I got Master McCarthy's seminar tape made in the 199X's good stuff but???

We still say ain't nothing wrong with cross training and calling it that.

I will ask McCarthy Sensei directly as im seeing him this sunday coming,

re groundfighting in old style Okinawan Karate (specifically classical kata) and see what he says about it.

Glad you liked my naihanchi.

I'd say about 50/50 as far as interpretation. half mine, half what was taught to me.

As far as the bo... no I wasn't aware of it being used with it and I've never trained it as such.