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#391904 - 04/22/08 08:14 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: MattJ]
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#391905 - 04/22/08 11:38 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: BrianS]
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#391906 - 04/22/08 11:44 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: BrianS]
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tbh i think bisping is over rated, he looked robotic and unfomftable in his stance. doesnt utilise his reach either, against franklin he would probably just go for the ground and pound.
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#391907 - 04/22/08 11:57 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: shoveldog]
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So thats what fight or flight looks like in a cage! LOL

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#391908 - 04/22/08 12:47 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Tom2199]
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tbh i think bisping is over rated, he looked robotic and unfomftable in his stance. doesnt utilise his reach either, against franklin he would probably just go for the ground and pound.




But would it work? At the end of the day, its not what a fighter doesn't use to win, its what he does use to win that counts.
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#391909 - 04/22/08 03:32 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Cord]
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#391910 - 04/22/08 08:02 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Dereck]
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Bisping is certainly overrated. Zuffa wants to tap the UK market and they've pushed Bisping shamelessly. He's fought no one of any quality except Hamill, and a clueless judge gave him that one in a travesty of a decision. Or maybe it was divine intervention:


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#391911 - 04/22/08 08:13 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Dereck]
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GSP was amazing and I think proved that his loss to serra was a just a blemish on his amazing record.

If Jon Fitch is next I honestly believe it won't be much a fight, GSP will outwrestle Fitch and Fitch has practically no stand up compared to GSP who started out with just a BB in kyokushin

I've liked Mac Danzig since his appearace on TUF6. To be honest at first I disliked him because he was a [censored] all of the time but I think his beliefs are in the right place. Seeing him win even over a fellow Canadian is nice

Kalib Starnes' performance was an embarassment to all Canadians I believe. Nate showed up to fight but unfortunately Kalib didn't. I thought Nate's antics saved the whole fight in terms of entertainment.

Franklin looked impressive as always(except when fighting Anderson Silva). I thought it was hilarious Travis Lutter had no energy left in the second round when he is supposed to be a professional fighter.

Finally Bisping looked good at 185, his standup is pretty tight but he seems a bit one dimensional and I don't think he could beat Franklin let alone Silva because of that.

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#391912 - 04/23/08 05:30 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: _kyle]
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Finally Bisping looked good at 185, his standup is pretty tight but he seems a bit one dimensional and I don't think he could beat Franklin let alone Silva because of that.




OK, lets say that Bisping is being given an easy ride by the matchmakers, it wouldnt be the first time this has happened- I recall the same being said of Franklin as he was on the up. Whatever happened to Lindland? contract got dropped before ol' 'Hills have eyes' could get his hands on Franklin the boy wonder, thats what.
As a fighter, Bisping has to fight who they put in front of him. He freakin spanked Macarthy. Can you actually think of a more dominant display of stand up in recent times- only Couture's exhibition of dirty boxing against Sylvia comes to mind for me.
Starnes runs like a beotch, and Quarry gets sympathy/respect, Macarthy goes feotal, and Bisping gets doubted. At least macarthy tried to fight back.
Anyone think Quarry is being given an easy ride?
If you knew nothing about the UFC, and watched that card, which guy would you think had his opposition 'tampered' with in some way?
I dont think either fighter did anything but the best they could against the man in front of them. Time will tell how far they can go- I never thought Jardine would beat Liddel, or Serra would beat GSP, but thats what makes the sport so awesome- there are no clear favourites in an MMA match.
Bisping has heavy strikes and good clinch, and superb knees- how did Sylva beat Franklin again? TWICE.
I am not saying Bisping is proven as good as Sylva, but I am saying that what he likes to do, Franklin hates to recieve.
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#391913 - 04/23/08 06:27 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Cord]
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Franklin's overrated, too. I doubt Rich was in on it, but Ken Shamrock obviously "put Rich over" in their fight; the video clearly shows Ken taking a dive without being hit. I could cite other examples, but what's that got to do with Bisping? Nothing.

So Bisping "spanked" McCarthy, another lower tier fighter. Is that all ya got? Sort of proves the point doesn't it?

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