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#391894 - 04/21/08 12:19 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Spade]
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GSP, awesome, as expected!

Franklin, did ok, got the W.

Quarry vs. the running man,lol, never saw anything like it. Loved the Rocky 4 ending comment,lol.

Danzig did very good, his opponent was tough!
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#391895 - 04/21/08 05:02 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: MattJ]
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Gotta say that Kenny Florian did a great job as commentator.




Apart from 'congratulating' Serra on his loss- twice

Is there anyone else here who just gets mesmerised by GSP when he fights and kind of thinks 'wow. every other fighter on earth sucks'. The guy is phenomenal. Then he (and Serra to be fair) finish with huge class. Compare that to Hopkins performance and his after fight interview, and you see why UFC is increasing in popularity at such a speed.

I loved the crowd shouting 'KNEES!! KNEES!!' when Franklin was controlling the clinch Must have felt good to be on the other side of the situation for a change

Nate Quarry is a solid fighter who got a good cardio workout chasing his oponent on the night- I doubt he covers that distance in his roadwork

It was a great card, and GSP, in performance and conduct, stamped his card as the true successor to Couture as ambassador for MMA/UFC. Dana White must be delighted, and hugely relieved to have him.
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#391896 - 04/21/08 08:40 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Cord]
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I always hated Kalib Starned when he was on TUF. Always whining and complaining. This just solidified what a little be-atch he really is. I hope the Zuffa Bros. cancel any remaining contracted fights he has with them.

Bad form old chap, bad form.
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#391897 - 04/21/08 09:22 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Raul Perez]
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Fellow Canadian Kalib Starnes I highly doubt we will see again any time soon. Dana will have hated that performance however Nate Quarry just got a little shining star beside his name and we will definitely see him again.
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#391898 - 04/21/08 09:52 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Raul Perez]
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I can't understand why Lutter bothered to try and fight Franklin. You'd think a guy who failed to make weight for his previous fight would learn something from it and make sure he was in good shape for his next fight. Gassing in the second round like that is simply not acceptable if you expect to fight at a high level.

Danzig was impressive. I remember watching a pre-fight interview with him, where he said that stylistically he felt the match-up was not good for him, and he was worried it would become a boring fight. No sign of that! Although definitely it was one of the hardest fights I've seen a TUF winner debut with.

I was really impressed with Bisping too, he looked really fast at 185. I can't see him ever being an elite middleweight because he lacks a great ground game, but in terms of stand-up, strength and quickness, he'd be a hand-ful for anyone in the division(maybe not Silva suprisingly). Actually I wouldn't mind seeing Bisping-Franklin in the future, I think it'd be a real war, although I think Franklin might have the edge. Hard to see who Franklin will fight if not Bisping.

GSP did what everybody expected him to do and beat on Matt Serra. I am so impressed with GSP's wrestling and positional ground-work. It seems like it's impossible to ever put him on the bottom, which is ofcourse, a huge advantage. If John Fitch is the next fight for GSP then I honestly feel sorry for him- much like the middleweight division, GSP is in a class of his own at the moment. There are so many really good fighters in the welterweight division, and it's incredibly deep, but just about all of those guys are a tier below where GSP is.

Wow, that must have been one of the only recent cards not to have some shocking upset in it!

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#391899 - 04/21/08 10:10 AM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Supremor]
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WOW awesome armbar escape by Rich Franlkin at 3:55 in the first round. Excellent.

LOL at Khalib's "roadwork" vs Quarry.

Was impressed with McCarthy's defense against Bisping. But we all know you can't win a fight on defense. Bisping's attacks were very sharp - those knees!

Good fights this one!
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#391900 - 04/21/08 01:23 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Supremor]
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I can't understand why Lutter bothered to try and fight Franklin. You'd think a guy who failed to make weight for his previous fight would learn something from it and make sure he was in good shape for his next fight. Gassing in the second round like that is simply not acceptable if you expect to fight at a high level.




Lutter didn't do his homework. He fought Franklin exactly how Jason MacDonald did and tried to take him to the ground and constantly had his head down. Jason would never make that mistake again and would have learned from this but obviously Lutter didn't.


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Danzig was impressive. I remember watching a pre-fight interview with him, where he said that stylistically he felt the match-up was not good for him, and he was worried it would become a boring fight. No sign of that! Although definitely it was one of the hardest fights I've seen a TUF winner debut with.




I didn't much like this guy on the show as I found him a little arrogant however this fight was very good, he fought an excellent fight and was very classy afterwards.


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I was really impressed with Bisping too, he looked really fast at 185. I can't see him ever being an elite middleweight because he lacks a great ground game, but in terms of stand-up, strength and quickness, he'd be a hand-ful for anyone in the division(maybe not Silva suprisingly). Actually I wouldn't mind seeing Bisping-Franklin in the future, I think it'd be a real war, although I think Franklin might have the edge. Hard to see who Franklin will fight if not Bisping.




I don't like Bisping; not at all however I would like also to see him face Franklin; Franklin would let him know what the real caliber of Middle Weight is. I like McCarthy however after all of his antics and didn't back it up, I'm glad Bisping won the fight and decisively.


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GSP did what everybody expected him to do and beat on Matt Serra. I am so impressed with GSP's wrestling and positional ground-work. It seems like it's impossible to ever put him on the bottom, which is ofcourse, a huge advantage. If John Fitch is the next fight for GSP then I honestly feel sorry for him- much like the middleweight division, GSP is in a class of his own at the moment. There are so many really good fighters in the welterweight division, and it's incredibly deep, but just about all of those guys are a tier below where GSP is.




Can't agree more; GSP is the man and I've said it all along.
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#391901 - 04/21/08 06:13 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Dereck]
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That was a good fight for Rich Franklin he showed that he can fight well on the ground Lutter got in a great arm bar set it up nice. But Franklin counter was awesome after that it wasn't much of a fight, it showed how far ground fighting has come usually a arm abr sunk that deep it was over. Lutter knew he couldn't stand with him even though he showed some nu%%s takng that head kick without going down but it was pretty much over after that. It's hard to imagine that he shot his wad after the 1st round but that was a solid head kick Rich gave him in 2nd. You just can't be a mostly single discipline man anymore and win in UFC unless you're lucky.

GSP and Serra was a great fight not wanting to give Serra a Puncher's chance he took it to the ground and pound & ground showing great balance. Dominating Serra but who else noticed the spining move to the full guard that Serra kept using every time GSP pulled full or near full mount, Serra is a great grappler with heavy hands but GSP was not to be denided. Great fight!!!

That was a good card!!!
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#391902 - 04/21/08 08:04 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: Neko456]
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Well, it could have been a good card, if Lutter had actually trained cardio enough to go past the first round, if McCarthy hadn't decided that a good strategy was to stand still and take knees to the head, and if Kalib Starnes hadn't inspired YTMNDs like this:

http://kalibsucks.ytmnd.com/

And they should have shown the Demian Maia fight. Then, it would have been a good card.

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#391903 - 04/21/08 08:22 PM Re: Tonights PPV UFC 83 [Re: shoveldog]
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and if Kalib Starnes hadn't inspired YTMNDs like this:

http://kalibsucks.ytmnd.com/






LMFAO
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