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#391725 - 04/21/08 04:37 PM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Ames]
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That's one thing that I really agree with Matt Thornton about, that the atheletic pursuit of combative truth generally leads to a heathier psycological state.




That is absolutely right. I’ve long agreed with this. Its funny the way people act when they begin to train in “street combat”. They almost program themselves to find trouble, like a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Great post by the way Chris!

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#391726 - 04/21/08 06:41 PM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: JKogas]
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Wagner hasnever been at a loss as to how to market himself. I seem to remember when he got a job as a Police officer, he came out with a book and a video on "how to get a job as a police officer". Everything he did seemed to be about padding his resume.

He offered his services to Black Belt Magazine to give readers the "inside scoop" on police tactics and training and then used the exposure to push his own company. To me, he came across as a sellout from day one.

The best was when he quit his police job to be a Federal Air Marshall (which several of my friends did post 9-11). He wrote an article to chronicle his journey into the elite world of national anti-terrorism, talking it up like an army recruiter to a class of high school seniors. Those working FAM know that job is glorified security guard duty and does not deserve the hype. I think Wagner did it a short time (like most) before quitting. I would think that most agencies would not appreciate his name dropping and leapfrogging on their reputations.

He rubs me the wrong way... obviously.
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#391727 - 04/22/08 12:19 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Fletch1]
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So, you are not going to go out and buy the head focus mitt?

lol
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#391728 - 04/22/08 08:59 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: JasonM]
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Yeah he mentions he worked a whopping whole two years in corrections as well. To me and my fellow C/O's, that's still a rookie.

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#391729 - 04/23/08 01:12 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Glockmeister]
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So, basically no redeeming qualities we can see. Does he actually work with all of those European Special Ops teams he claims to? Most people would look at that and say that is reason enough to train with him, valid or not.
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#391730 - 04/23/08 10:17 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: JoshuaMonjin]
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You pick up the recent copy of Black Belt magazine? In there, "Sgt" Jim Wagner was discussing gun disarms from a distance. and describes a way to run towards an armed person to get close enough to disarm. Any halfway intelligent person is going to be running away, whether LEO or not, to get to safety first. Also he claims in doing so, you stand a good chance of getting shot (duh!) Also, he claims if you are say, shot in the neck, you still should have 3 seconds that you can function to "take that bad guy with you"
man What a dreamer.

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#391731 - 04/23/08 10:26 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Glockmeister]
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He says that for real? WOW!!
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#391732 - 04/23/08 02:10 PM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Glockmeister]
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Also, he claims if you are say, shot in the neck, you still should have 3 seconds that you can function to "take that bad guy with you"
man What a dreamer.




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#391733 - 04/24/08 09:28 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: MattJ]
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Well it appears Jim Wagner = douche... but I could be mistaken lol
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#391734 - 04/24/08 11:56 AM Re: Jim Wagner RBSD not on the board? [Re: Glockmeister]
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Also, he claims if you are say, shot in the neck, you still should have 3 seconds that you can function to "take that bad guy with you"





Actually there is some truth to that, when I was in NYC I studied under the Great Master Sho'nuff (other then Bruce Leroy, the greatest fighter in the history of New York). And he taught if for some reason you don't catch the bullet in your teeth, and get shot in the neck, all you have to do is align you chi with your shockra's, and then you can use the Jazz hands attack to take out the bad guy.

Easily done within 3 seconds.
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