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#391638 - 04/18/08 04:48 AM
Which kata is best for self defense?
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Registered: 11/03/04
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More interesting to me than which style/art is best for self defense is the question of which kata?
If you had to teach someone effective self defense skills within a 3 month time limit, for use in everyday situations, but you had to derive your teachings from a singe karate kata, which would you pick and why?
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#391639 - 04/18/08 08:38 AM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: Shonuff]
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Kanku Dai for me from a Shotokan/Shorin perspective-good range of flinch response and receiving techniques, open and closed hand strikes to all levels, a couple of kicks, takedowns, wrist locks, an arm bar and a possible leg lock, several throws and escapes. 3 months would be a tall order though-what is happening in 3 months? That said, there is so much overlap between kata in terms of application and principles (when real men only practiced one or two  ) that real concentration on Bassai Dai or Enpi or even Jion would achieve something similar. Equally Gojushiho/Ueseishi or Unsu or Nijushiho/Niseishi might achieve good defence but teaching sometimes slightly different skills and principles. B.
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#391641 - 04/18/08 09:20 AM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: oldman]
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That kata was so redic I had to comment on the video.
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#391642 - 04/18/08 01:09 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: Raul Perez]
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Saifa. It's got a lot in it.
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#391643 - 04/18/08 01:26 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: harlan]
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harlan Good call--even has a (arguable) defense vs a single leg takedown in it. I'd go with Seisan myself--partial to the goju version--but any of them would do. If I had one kata to work with I'd pick Seisan.....as of today..might have a different opinion next month.....and another still the month after 
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#391644 - 04/18/08 01:37 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: cxt]
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If I had one kata to work with I'd pick Seisan.....as of today..might have a different opinion next month.....and another still the month after
My view exactly.
Also seems to be the one kata practiced in all Okinawan karate styles.
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#391645 - 04/18/08 01:40 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: Seiken]
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It's not practiced in Shorin ryu, or, at least not in Matsubayashi.
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#391646 - 04/18/08 02:04 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: Stormdragon]
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I'm partial to the Naihanchi Series mainly because it deals exclusively with "In-fighting" which is where most self-defense situations happen (face to face).
Although I do enjoy and respect Passai for it's applications and evasive manuvers/vicious counter attacks/locks/throws, etc.
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#391647 - 04/18/08 02:57 PM
Re: Which kata is best for self defense?
[Re: Shonuff]
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If you had to teach someone effective self defense skills within a 3 month time limit, for use in everyday situations, but you had to derive your teachings from a singe karate kata, which would you pick and why?
No kata. Teach a few basic techniques and drill them over and over and over and over. You think you can learn, understand, and apply the principles of a kata in 3 months? 
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