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#390975 - 04/13/08 08:55 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: VDJ]
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I also find that the leftist are far more likely to go to dirty name calling once holes have been poked into their beliefs.




There is plenty of that on both sides and I think intelligent people who actually care more about what is right then being right are offended and annoyed by the childish antics.

So lets not drive this thread into lockdown but discussing the record of Hannity or any group. The issue he brings up is the view of many people, even if the report is flawed in it's research.
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#390976 - 04/13/08 09:00 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: MattJ]
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Kids are allowed to practice boxing, and kids are allowed to practice wrestling, but kids doing boxing and wrestling at the same time is "brutal" and "human cockfighting".




This is exactly what I was hoping the MMA coach would say. I don't see how anyone can argue with that - it's just combining two sports that people in general see as safe and acceptable, with some added protection thanks to the headguards, shin pads etc.

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#390977 - 04/13/08 09:11 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: MattJ]
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Between all the gashed skulls and pre-fight smack talk they show, I can understand how the public can get the wrong idea.





Yep. No one is going out of their way to dispel these notions either.

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#390978 - 04/13/08 09:29 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: MattJ]
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Treading on thin line folks with regards to political debates. I'm keeping this thread open but FYI I have deleted posts making political stances and arguments. However I've kept the Sean Hannity pic because it amuses me greatly.

Keep this topic on MMA and kids as it was intended. That is all.
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#390979 - 04/13/08 10:06 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: Raul Perez]
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Raul,

Both mine and fileboy's posts, though they had some political reference were still on topic of the thread but I do understand your reason for deleting them. HOWEVER, I feel that you are also setting a double standard by leaving the Hannity pic simply because it "amuses" you.

VDJ


Edited by JohnL (04/14/08 11:02 AM)

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#390980 - 04/13/08 10:11 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: VDJ]
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The picture is insulting Hannity as a person,


Edited by JohnL (04/14/08 11:02 AM)

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#390981 - 04/13/08 10:26 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: VDJ]
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Maybe they just support the view that Hannity is an idiot.

Anyway back to the subject, the things you guys are mentioning about the marketing of MMA seems very relevant here, the fact is that alot of the marketing contributes to the public perception of this stuff.

The stereoptypical image of the trash-talking violent MMA thug type is unfortunately what is in the minds of the general public.


Edited by JohnL (04/14/08 11:03 AM)

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#390982 - 04/13/08 10:38 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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Just as before, right to dirty name calling because he's on the otherside of what you believe and then you try to cover it up by "getting back to the topic at hand". This thread should be deleted all together. Sorry Matt, but it just seems that the biases outweigh the level headedness.

VDJ


Edited by JohnL (04/14/08 11:04 AM)

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#390983 - 04/13/08 10:57 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: VDJ]
Zach_Zinn Offline
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Whether or not the guy calls himself a journalist, he is responsible for some horrid "investigative reporting" style schlock that belongs nowhere but the garbage can, and this MMA bit is no exception, it's fundamentally irresponsible to "report" on an issue in the manner that he does.

I will say that he is certainly not the first person to do this with MMA though, pieces like this seem to be a dime a dozen.

The lack of standards in these kinds of shows is appalling.

Moving on though...i'd like to know what the MMA guys on here think in general about MMA marketing and how much it is responsible for public perception.

Do you think public perception of MMA is mostly due to the media or the promoters or both?

Also to be fair, I do understand people's concern about kids being involved in MMA, I just don't think most of the reporting on the subject that i've seen has been very good.


Edited by JohnL (04/14/08 11:05 AM)

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#390984 - 04/13/08 11:26 PM Re: Sean Hannity on youth MMA [Re: MattJ]
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...But yet FOX is geering up to include MMA fights on Prime time tv? Go ahead and tell me they aren't marketing to kids.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.ht...p;sMPlaylistID=

http://www.foxnews.com/fightgame/

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/11/video-fox-news-talks-mma-on-cbs/

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=561041062&channel=370573720

largest sponsor of Network MMA: Burger King.


ah yes, Sean Hannity, your own network is geering up to cash in on this cow - they cannot ignore the money. and soon your network's FOX logo will be side-by-side with an MMA logo, on a kid's happy meal at BK.


What's funny is the conflicting message FOX is putting out: 'Fox and Friends' are promoting MMA during the morning/day. meanwhile FOX's "Orightly" and "Inhannity" are bashing MMA at night.

...or maybe they are just trying to be 'fair and balanced' ? LOL

money doesn't lie folks. follow the money and you'll likely find out closer to the truth.

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